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OperatorOperator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to RUM Group Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being recorded on Monday, August 10, 2026. I would now like to turn the conference over to Shannon Devine, Investor Relations for RUM Group. Please go ahead.

Shannon DevineInvestor Relations

Thank you, operator. I'm here today with Chris Pavlovski, Founder, Chairman and CEO of RUM Group; and Mike Masci, CFO. A press release detailing our second quarter 2026 results was released today and is available on our Investor Relations website. Before we begin the formal presentation, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made on this call may include predictions, estimates or other information that may be considered forward-looking. All forward-looking statements are made only as of the date of this call and should be considered in conjunction with the company's cautionary statements in our earnings release and the factors included in our filings with the SEC. Future company updates will be available via press release and the company's identified social media channels. I will now turn the call over to RUM Group's Founder, Chairman and CEO, Chris Pavlovski.

Christopher PavlovskiFounder, Chairman and CEO

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Last quarter, I told you this would be the last call before Rumble meaningfully entered the cloud and agentic AI era. Today, I'm glad to say that transformation is complete. On June 17, we closed our acquisition of Northern Data, securing approximately 85.2% of its outstanding shares. And with the deal closed, we renamed our parent company, RUM Group, Inc. We now operate two distinct, synergistic business units: Rumble, our video platform; and Quake AI, our new cloud and AI infrastructure business, combining Rumble Cloud with Northern Data's estate of roughly 22,000 NVIDIA H100 and H200 GPUs. To kick off our first earnings call as a combined company, I'm thrilled to announce that our revenue for the second quarter was $40.4 million, up 61% from $25.1 million in the second quarter of 2025. I'm proud to say it's been nearly five years since we announced being public, and we're still posting all-time records for our company, and we anticipate that we will post another all-time record in the next upcoming quarter. I want to spend a minute on the strategic logic here because I think it's important for everyone on this call to understand where we are headed. Rumble spent years building its own rails as a streaming platform, our own bare metal compute, our own CDN and the network to deliver low-latency streaming at scale. Combined with an AI compute-as-a-service business like Northern Data, you get a compelling end-to-end AI infrastructure company. That's Quake AI, and it's going to be the financial engine of RUM Group going forward. On execution, Quake AI's existing GPU estate is running at more than 85% utilization today, up sharply from where it stood not long ago. That improvement reflects a deliberate focus on customer support, software, and Infrastructure as a Service execution, and it's what gave us the credibility to win the next stage of growth. In June, we signed a multiyear agreement with Together AI to deploy NVIDIA HGX B300 GPU capacity, establishing RUM Group as a credible independent provider of large-scale AI infrastructure outside the traditional hyperscaler ecosystem. It validates that our customers trust our execution enough to partner with us and that NVIDIA is willing to support us with the supply allocation to keep growing. The next stage for this team is monetizing our 250 megawatts of power targeted for 2027, the grid connections and agreements that put us in position for real deployment next year. That capacity spans our marquee 180-megawatt powered site near Atlanta, Georgia, one of the most important Internet points of presence in the country. We continue to see strong customer momentum as well as meaningful progress on the site development, where the substation is already built and the transformers are on site. In addition, we also have a smaller site in Pittsburgh and two European sites: roughly 50 megawatts in Sweden and roughly 20 megawatts in Norway. We continue to see encouraging and unprecedented growth in demand for AI compute as a service, and our customer and demand pipeline remains strong. Simply monetizing 250 megawatts of currently unmonetized capacity represents what we believe is a $3 billion-plus annual run rate opportunity for RUM Group. Turning to our video business: average global monthly active users were 57 million in the second quarter, and ARPU was $0.48, up 20% quarter-over-quarter. Our management team's focus is to continue to increase revenue by bringing in brand advertising. Additionally, with the recent formation of Quake AI, we are quickly learning from our AI clientele that Rumble may have a much more compelling monetization opportunity. As the AI industry moves into the robotic era in the coming years, Rumble's spatiotemporal data, otherwise known as video data, becomes increasingly valuable and very important to robotic learning. For example, contextual data, like what Reddit has, is a prime example of the value in today's world of AI, but we believe in one to two years this will shift heavily towards video data. And only a week ago, it was reported in the news that Amazon was exploring ways to tap into Twitch's video data. In fact, Quake AI clientele have already expressed interest in our video data. Our team is looking at various ways to capitalize on this opportunity and add another bucket of potential revenue for the creator community. With significant spatiotemporal data on Rumble, combined with the AI compute rails we are building and deploying at Quake, RUM Group sits in a very unique position compared to today's neoclouds. Like them, we can offer scaled AI compute, but unlike them, we have a trove of video data and a creator community that can help power the robotics era. In short, we have data, we have the rails, and we have the community to power the future of AI, which we believe is the robotic and agentic AI era. With that, let me turn the call over to our CFO, Mike Masci, who will walk you through the quarter in more detail, along with some important updates on our guidance process and reporting on our businesses going forward.

Michael MasciCFO

Thanks, Chris, and good afternoon, everyone. This was a landmark quarter, both operationally and financially. Let me start by walking you through the high-level financials. First, revenue for the second quarter was $40.4 million, an increase of $15.3 million or 61% compared to $25.1 million in the second quarter of 2025. Taking a turn to our expenses: we continue to make strategic investments to best position ourselves for high growth in AI. Cost of services were $30.6 million, up from $26.5 million a year ago, driven by higher programming and content costs as well as the incremental data center expenses from the Northern Data acquisition. General and administrative expenses were $16.3 million, up from $11.7 million, again primarily driven by Northern Data, which contributed $5 million of payroll and other administrative costs. Excluding Northern Data, the remaining increase reflects higher payroll and other administrative costs, partially offset by lower professional fees. Research and development expenses were $6.8 million, up from $4.8 million. Sales and marketing expenses were $10.4 million, up from $7.9 million, attributable to higher marketing and public relations spend, increased payroll and other sales and marketing-related expenditures. Adjusted EBITDA loss for the quarter was $16.6 million, an improvement from a loss of $20.5 million in the second quarter of 2025. Net loss for the quarter was $80.3 million, or $79.1 million attributable to RUM Group, Inc., compared to a net loss of $30.2 million in the second quarter of 2025. The year-over-year increase in net loss was primarily driven by $28.3 million of acquisition-related transaction costs associated with the Northern Data close, along with higher noncash depreciation and amortization following the acquisition. We ended the quarter with total liquidity of $220.5 million, consisting of $203.3 million in cash and cash equivalents and 293.14 Bitcoin valued at roughly $17.2 million. But before I get into guidance, I want to talk you through an important change in how we will report going forward. This will be the last quarter we present MAU and ARPU as headline metrics for the company. Those numbers described a single video audience business. Following the Northern Data acquisition, that's no longer the full picture of what RUM Group is. Beginning with our third quarter report, we plan to move to segment reporting: Rumble Video and Quake AI, each with its own revenue and profitability metrics. I think that's a far more useful way for all of you to understand where we're allocating capital and how each part of our business is actually performing. And it's the reporting structure I'll be building around as I get further into the seat. So that brings me to guidance. For the first time, we are issuing formal revenue guidance. For the third quarter of 2026, our first full quarter reflecting Quake AI, we expect revenue between $87 million and $93 million. We've heard directly from many of you that formal guidance would help you better understand this business, and now that Northern Data is closed with strong contracted revenue and high utilization, we felt this was the right moment to give you that visibility. Over time, as our forecasting visibility continues to improve, we plan to build this out further, including longer-term views. Building a disciplined, credible guidance process is something I'm personally focused on as we establish our track record with all of you. So in summary, this was a transformational quarter, record revenue, both including and excluding Northern Data. We closed Northern Data and established Quake AI as a leader in AI compute as a service. We signed a marquee agreement with Together AI, and we are now focused as a team on converting our 250 megawatts of unmonetized power targeted for 2027 into what we believe is a $3 billion-plus annual revenue run rate opportunity. I was excited when I came on board at the end of March. Today, I'm more excited about where RUM Group is headed, and I look forward to updating you on our progress. That concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we are now ready to open the line for questions.

分析師問答

OperatorOperator

And your first question comes from the line of Tom Forte with Maxim Group.

Henry DareAnalyst (Maxim Group, filling in for Tom Forte)

This is Henry Dare filling in for Tom Forte. I have two questions. Firstly, Chris, there's some debate among investors as to what happens to pricing for AI when capacity catches up with demand. I would appreciate your thoughts on that matter. Secondly, and this may be too early as you just finished the Northern Data transaction, but I would appreciate your current thoughts on your strategic M&A strategy and the types of companies you consider adding moving forward.

Christopher PavlovskiFounder, Chairman and CEO

Henry, this is Chris. Yes, there's been a lot of debate about that. The way I look at it right now and what we see in our window is that we're still in the early stages of AI. In particular, with inferencing and agentic AI exploding in the coming years, the demand for AI compute is going to continue to increase. I don't see in the near future any point where capacity will catch up to demand on the AI compute side. Compute is scarce; it's very scarce. I believe at this point in time we will not have capacity meet that demand in the next one to two years.

Henry DareAnalyst (Maxim Group, filling in for Tom Forte)

Okay. And this may be too early as you just finished the Northern Data transaction, but I would appreciate your current thoughts on your strategic M&A strategy and types of companies you consider adding moving forward.

Michael MasciCFO

Yes. Like you said, it's pretty early in our process in terms of how we're thinking about moving forward. Right now, as a management and leadership team, we're really focused on that 250 megawatts of unmonetized capacity. We're always going to look at opportunities that create value for customers and shareholders. But for now, our focus is on monetizing that 250 megawatts of unmonetized capacity.

OperatorOperator

And your next question comes from the line of Jason Helfstein with Oppenheimer.

Jason HelfsteinAnalyst (Oppenheimer)

Congrats on giving guidance, and I never say congratulations on the call. So glad we hit this milestone. First, to dig into some of the questions I think folks have: when you think about getting what you need to get the compute going — obviously you've got the cash now — help us understand the challenges around getting the chips, rack cooling, all of the parts you need for the data center. How much has already been contracted? How much is signed? Help us understand timing of when that comes online. And then, because I think most people know it is challenging to get all of the equipment to get the data centers open, have you thought about potentially doing the powered-shell playbook where you run the infrastructure and the customers bring the chips and the racks? I have a follow-up on advertising after that.

Michael MasciCFO

Jason, this is a record-setting quarter for us. To your question on CapEx, when we look at agreements like the one with Together AI, we do not sign contracts until we have strong line of sight to secure the right amount of equipment and capacity to put that online. You can see from our cash flow statements that this past quarter we had a large uptick in investing activities, roughly $47 million, which is unusual for us. That largely went toward purchases of the IT CapEx necessary to execute those AI compute-as-a-service deals. Think of that as the start of the process, and we feel really good about our ability to get supply to ultimately fulfill obligations for key deals, including the one with Together AI. Regarding the powered-shell model — sometimes called the powered shell model in the industry — the idea is if you have capacity for power, you build the data center and then lease it out on a long-term basis for someone else to operate AI compute. We addressed some of this in our investor deck. It's a worthy business model, but what we found is the unique ability to deliver AI compute as a service is differentiated in the industry. It's one of the things that interested us and is a huge value add from Northern Data. They have been doing AI compute as a service for years. To make that real, you can think of monetizing power and shell at roughly $1.5 million to $2 million per megawatt per year. Delivering AI compute as a service on Blackwell-generation hardware we show can deliver almost $11 million per megawatt per year. That's roughly a fivefold difference in value creation when you deliver AI compute as a service. It's not without cost — you need to secure AI compute hardware and operate very complex systems — but Northern Data and RUM Group have earned that right over years in partnership with NVIDIA. We're happy to take advantage of that fivefold monetization opportunity. We feel like AI compute as a service is our business model moving forward.

Christopher PavlovskiFounder, Chairman and CEO

Jason, I'll add that I think the Rubin chipset coming in the next year or two will further improve monetization. I also referenced the SpaceX call where Elon quoted much higher numbers for the Rubin generation.

Jason HelfsteinAnalyst (Oppenheimer)

Okay. The main point you're saying is that whenever you make a public announcement, you've already secured basically the hardware to do that. That's how investors should think about modeling this — building as you go with these announcements. Is that going to be the policy? Should we assume every major customer win like that will be announced and then that's how we can think about the timing of the scaling of the model?

Michael MasciCFO

First, what I described is how we're going to seek to operate. I wouldn't call it a formal policy, but from an operating perspective our first job is prudent risk management. We would not enter into contracts that we didn't feel we could fulfill. Having supply allocation and execution certainty is part of our diligence before signing a deal. So while I wouldn't call it a strict policy statement, you should understand we pursue arrangements where we have strong line of sight to execute before we commit.

Jason HelfsteinAnalyst (Oppenheimer)

No, that's fine. And then just on the ad business: a nice acceleration on a year-over-year basis. Can you say how much of the quarter was related to Tether advertising impact, if you're willing to break that out?

Michael MasciCFO

Yes. We did break this out in the quarter to show how much was related to Tether during the quarter. We had roughly $4.8 million related to Tether in Q2.

OperatorOperator

And I'm showing no further questions at this time. Ladies and gentlemen, this now concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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