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OperatorOperator

Greetings, and welcome to Lattice Semiconductor Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Rick Muscha, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, Rick. You may begin.

Rick MuschaVice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. With me today are Fouad Tamer, Lattice's CEO; and Lorenzo Flores, Lattice's CFO. We will provide a financial and business review of the second quarter of 2026 and the outlook for the third quarter of 2026, followed by a brief overview of AMI and its business model. If you have not yet obtained a copy of our earnings press release, it can be found at our company website in the Investor Relations section at latticesemi.com. I would like to remind everyone that during our conference call today, we may make projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future financial performance of the company. We wish to caution you that such statements are predictions based on information that is currently available and that actual results may differ materially. We refer you to the documents that the company files with the SEC, including our 10-Ks, 10-Qs and 8-Ks.

These documents contain and identify important risk factors that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those contained in our projections or forward-looking statements. This call includes and constitutes the company's official guidance for the third quarter of 2026. If at any time after this call, we communicate any material changes to this guidance, we intend that such updates will be done using a public forum such as a press release or publicly announced conference call. We refer primarily to non-GAAP financial measures during this call. By disclosing certain non-GAAP information, management intends to provide investors with additional information to permit further analysis of the company's performance and underlying trends. For historical periods, we provided reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures that can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at latticesemi.com. With that, I'll turn the call over to our CEO, Fouad Tamer.

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Thank you, Rick, and welcome, everyone, to our Second Quarter Earnings Call. Lattice delivered exceptional financial results this quarter, reflecting a healthy market environment, compelling catalysts and our own strong execution. We have a focused and consistent strategy to create durable value by growing faster than the markets we serve. We do this by expanding into new applications, serving leadership customers, delivering differentiated innovation and driving sustainable shareholder value as a result. We are executing against each of these strategic elements and the results are increasingly visible across the business. Following last week's close of the AMI acquisition, Lattice is now positioned to deliver even greater value to customers and our shareholders. You will hear more about this acquisition shortly. First, let me update you on our second quarter results and outlook. Revenue for the second quarter was a record $201 million, representing 18% sequential growth and 62% year-over-year growth with strength across all our end markets.

Our Compute and Communications end market reached another record revenue level, growing 18% sequentially and 83% year-over-year, driven by continued momentum in data center AI applications. Demand for Lattice solutions continues to be fueled by increasing CapEx, increasing AI content per server, expanding FPGA attach rates, rising security requirements and the shift towards more complex disaggregated architectures. We also saw a continued recovery in our Industrial and Embedded end market with revenue up 17% sequentially and 36% year-over-year. We see momentum building across a diverse set of end markets, including industrial automation, aerospace and defense, medical, robotics and other emerging physical AI applications. These applications increasingly require our Lattice differentiation in low power, small form factor, low latency and secure processing. With channel inventory at healthy levels and multiple new design wins beginning to ramp, we expect Industrial and Embedded to remain an important contributor to growth through the balance of 2026 and beyond.

As we had anticipated, profitability continued to grow significantly faster than revenue with second quarter non-GAAP EPS of $0.53, representing growth of more than 120% year-over-year. This outstanding performance underscores the operating leverage we have built into the model. We expect this momentum to continue based on demand trends building across our major end markets. This is evidenced by accelerated bookings and our backlog extending well into 2027. At the same time, design win momentum remains healthy across our FPGA portfolio and end markets. As demand continues to strengthen, we remain focused on working closely with our supply chain partners to ensure that we can support our customers' growth plans. Taken together, we expect these trends to support a sustained multiyear growth outlook. Turning now to AMI. We are pleased to announce the successful close of the acquisition last week.

It brings together Lattice's leadership in low-power FPGAs with AMI's industry-leading firmware and infrastructure manageability portfolio, and it positions us to create the industry's most complete, secure management and control platform for AI data center infrastructure. We expect that this combination can double our addressable market. In the 3 months since the announcement of the transaction, we have engaged with about 100 hyperscalers, OEMs, ODMs and ecosystem partners, including many at Computex in Taiwan. And uniformly, they have all given us unequivocal positive feedback about the time to market and value that our joint solutions can provide. This reinforces our confidence that the acquisition can provide long-term value to our shareholders. AMI is a highly attractive business with strong profitability and durable recurring revenue characteristics. As we exit 2026, we expect the business to be operating at a revenue run rate of more than $200 million with gross margins above 75% and EBITDA margins above 40%.

These metrics underscore the strength of AMI's market position, the depth of its customer relationships and the highly efficient operating model the company has built over many years. The AMI business is well balanced with approximately 60% of revenue generated from its boot firmware franchise and 40% from its infrastructure manageability solutions. Revenue includes firmware licensing, royalties and platform enablement services. This model creates strong visibility, attractive lifetime economics and durable customer engagements across long product cycles. We see multiple avenues to grow AMI over time, winning more platforms, increasing content per platform and expanding further into AI infrastructure and embedded markets. This includes new trends such as rack scale architectures, secure boot, data center manageability and remote monitoring and control. AMI will continue to operate with the same open, silicon-neutral approach that has earned the trust of customers and partners across the industry for decades.

We are excited to welcome the AMI team to Lattice, and we have already hit the ground running together. Looking forward to the third quarter, our revenue guidance for our FPGA business of $220 million at the midpoint represents approximately 65% year-over-year growth. When adding 2 months of AMI revenue contribution, our revenue guidance becomes $255 million at the midpoint, putting us at over $1 billion annualized revenue run rate. This strong outlook reflects our confidence in the accelerating momentum of the business and the breadth of demand across our end markets. The midpoint of our EPS outlook is $0.56, which reflects roughly 100% year-over-year growth. This highlights the powerful operating leverage in our model, the differentiated value of our products and our disciplined approach to scaling Lattice. We expect that we'll be able to consistently drive earnings growth that significantly outpaces revenue growth.

Looking ahead, accelerating AI infrastructure demand, the emergence of physical AI and the addition of AMI create a powerful foundation for Lattice's next phase of growth. The secular trends fueling our business have never been stronger. We are confident that we are in the early innings of a multiyear growth cycle, and our focus is clear: deliver sustained above-market growth while converting that growth into strong earnings and cash flow to benefit you, our valued shareholders. With that, I'll turn over the call over to Lorenzo for a comprehensive review of our second quarter results and outlook. Lorenzo?

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

Thank you, Fouad, and good afternoon, everyone. I will begin with a review of Lattice's Second Quarter 2026 Financial Performance, followed by our outlook for the third quarter. We'll then close with a brief introduction to AMI and its business model. Q2 financial performance was exceptional, exceeding the high end of our guidance. Revenue reached a record $201 million, growing 62% year-over-year and 18% quarter-over-quarter. Earnings growth continued to outpace our revenue growth and exceeded the high end of our guidance. Q2 non-GAAP EPS at $0.53 a share demonstrated significant leverage, growing more than 120% year-over-year and 29% quarter-over-quarter. Q2 non-GAAP gross margin was above expectation at 71.7%, up 170 basis points quarter-over-quarter and up 240 basis points year-over-year. Q2 gross margin benefited from favorable product and customer mix. Q2 non-GAAP operating expense was $67.1 million, up approximately 10% sequentially and 30% on a year-over-year basis.

The sequential increase was primarily driven by continued R&D investment. Performance-based bonuses and commissions associated with our stronger revenue and profitability also contributed. Our Q2 non-GAAP operating margin expanded 390 basis points sequentially to 38.3%, while our EBITDA margin increased 340 basis points to 43%. GAAP net cash flow from operating activities for the second quarter of 2026 was $88.3 million compared to $50.3 million in Q1. Free cash flow in Q2 was $81.3 million with a 40.4% free cash flow margin, up from $39.7 million and 23.2% in Q1. Strong financial performance and the fact that we paid out our 2025 annual bonus in Q1 were factors in the sequential improvement of cash flow. In summary, Q2 demonstrated the strength and leverage of our financial model with non-GAAP EPS growth significantly outpacing revenue growth. Now for our guidance, which will include our FPGA business and approximately 2 months of the AMI business given the closing at the end of July.

Our FPGA business continues its accelerated growth trend. Revenue is expected to grow into the range of $210 million to $230 million. AMI revenue for the partial quarter is expected to be between $33 million and $37 million. In total, Lattice revenue is expected to be in the range of $245 million to $265 million. Gross margin for the FPGA business is expected to be 70%, plus or minus 1% as we continue to manage our supply chain and costs in the face of increasing pressure. Combined, Lattice Q3 corporate gross margin is expected to be 69.5%, plus or minus 1% on a non-GAAP basis. This guidance reflects transitory issues in the AMI business, and I'll discuss those in more detail shortly. We expect non-GAAP operating expense to be between $83 million and $90 million on a combined basis. Most of the growth in OpEx will be in R&D and reflects our continued disciplined investments to drive long-term sustained revenue growth.

We expect income tax rate for Q3 to be between 4% and 6% on a non-GAAP basis. We expect non-GAAP EPS to be in the range of $0.54 and $0.58 per share. In summary, our Q3 outlook continues to reflect strong revenue and earnings momentum with EPS growth expected to once again significantly outpace revenue growth. This underscores the leverage in our model and our ability to scale profitably while continuing to invest in long-term growth. Earlier, Fouad provided a strategic overview of AMI in his prepared remarks. I'll provide additional color on the business model and the near-term factors that will affect comparability as we integrate AMI. I will also cover the acquisition financing. AMI brings a highly attractive business model that is closely aligned with Lattice's long-term financial framework. We expect the base revenue of greater than $200 million in 2026 will achieve significant growth in 2027.

AMI has built a very profitable business with gross margins in the mid- to high 70% range and EBITDA over 40%, which should improve our already strong business model. As AMI is integrated with Lattice, we expect to see meaningful accretion to EPS starting in Q4. AMI revenue is primarily driven by firmware licensing, recurring maintenance and subscription revenue and per unit royalties that scale with customer platforms over time. AMI also provides platform enablement services that support customer adoption and help establish durable long-term royalty streams. One of the transitory issues referenced above is a low-margin hardware pass-through business that is not core to AMI's strategic value. AMI began proactively divesting this business before the acquisition. While we expect this noncore business to be fully exited by the end of 2026, Q3 and Q4 will include this revenue. Completing the exit in Q4 should structurally expand AMI's margin profile in line with our expected go-forward model.

We anticipate that any other adjustments will be normalized by the end of 2026 as well. To reiterate, as we integrate AMI, we will show accretion across our business model with meaningful accretion to EPS starting in Q4 while we enable additional strategic growth opportunities. Regarding the acquisition structure, we purchased AMI for $1 billion in cash and 5.2 million shares of our stock. We funded the cash portion of the acquisition with $925 million of financing and $75 million of cash from our balance sheet. We put in place a financing structure with a $1.15 billion credit facility consisting of a $950 million term loan, drawing down only $925 million of it and a $200 million revolving credit facility. We were pleased with the strong participation from a high-quality syndicate of financial institutions, reflecting confidence in the Lattice AMI combination. Given the strong free cash flow profile of the combined company, we currently plan to reduce leverage to below 2x EBITDA by the end of 2027.

In closing, this has been an incredible few months for Lattice with our record Q2 results, our closing of the transformational AMI transaction and our record Q3 guide. We are very well positioned for strong near-term growth as well as the next level of strategic growth with accelerating revenue, earnings and cash flow generation. Operator, that concludes our formal remarks. We can now open the call for questions.

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Quinn BoltonAnalyst, Needham & Co.

Congratulations on the continued strong results and outlook. I guess, Fouad, just wanted to start with the Comms and Compute business. Obviously, very strong growth in AI data centers and general purpose as well. But wondering if you could talk about trends you're seeing in terms of FPGA attach rate per server, dollar content or ASP per FPGA. Have you seen those trends continue to increase sort of on a quarter-to-quarter basis here in 2026? And then I've got a follow-up.

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Thank you, Quinn. A few things that are worth noting this quarter. Number one, the latest Digitimes report shows the server TAM is now forecast at 20 million units for 2026, which is really strong growth, much stronger than the prior year. We're seeing the agentic revolution continue, and it's driving not just AI servers but also traditional servers, networking and storage — all the cloud infrastructure that supports inference and agentic applications. So that has helped our business because we participate in both. We participate strongly in AI-attached servers. We also participate in the supporting infrastructure, the cloud infrastructure. So we're really happy about that. The attach rate continues to grow. CapEx continues to grow. The ASP of some of the new products continues to grow because we're coming in now with further and more complex security requirements as an example. And we continue to be very positive on the characteristics of our FPGAs such as low latency, determinism, parallel processing, connectivity and a wide range of I/O. These are the 1.2 to 3.3-volt I/O in the data center, connecting up to 1,200 sensors on some of these servers. Our FPGAs continue to find use cases in numerous new applications such as, for example, power and cooling.

Quinn BoltonAnalyst, Needham & Co.

Excellent. And then I guess maybe for Lorenzo, as you bring AMI on board, it looks like it has gross margins in maybe the mid- to high 70s. I think you said op margins above 40% in the core FPGA business. You're already approaching a 40% op margin, and you've kind of highlighted that earnings growth will grow much faster than revenue. And so now that you've closed the AMI acquisition, can you give us some thoughts on where you think a longer-term model might be for gross margin and operating margin? Could it be in the low 70s and low 40s? Is there another range we should be thinking maybe a year or two out on a combined basis?

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

Yes. So I'll try to answer your question in near term and long term. We are benefiting right now in our business model from very, very strong revenue growth. But if you look underneath, we continue to invest. AMI is also an R&D-heavy organization because they continue to invest for the future. So the model that you see right now is probably approximately what we'll see for the next little bit. As we get into 2027 and our longer-term growth aspirations manifest themselves, we see a little bit better performance in our business model than we may have been expecting before. So 70-ish percent on the gross margin and a little bit sooner to 40% on the operating margin level than we had seen in the past is probably where we're taking it. But keep in mind that's in the face of the accelerated revenue growth we're expecting. In that model, you'd start to see a very significant acceleration in EPS as well.

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Christopher RollandAnalyst, Susquehanna International Group

Maybe just following up on the last question about gross margin. Lorenzo, I think you said there was a hardware business associated with AMI. How much revenue is that hardware business? Was that on top of the $200 million? Or does that take from the $200 million annual revenue? And is that the reason for margins being down in September?

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

Yes. This is a really transitory issue. As we picked them up, we have a partial quarter. They have already begun to, as I said in my comments, divest the hardware part of the business while maintaining the royalty stream. From the Lattice perspective, overall, it's not a meaningful amount of revenue. By Q4, it won't have an impact on our overall financials or even on the AMI-specific financials. So it's something that we wanted to point out because it does cause a Q3 step down from what we're expecting.

Christopher RollandAnalyst, Susquehanna International Group

Okay. And was that revenue on top of the $200 million or...

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

The $200 million a year run rate for AMI would exclude that in the end.

Christopher RollandAnalyst, Susquehanna International Group

Okay, excellent. A follow-up on I&E: I think the situation is they may not have understood we are in a new semiconductor cycle, and they're holding back spending. Any update on bookings there? Has it accelerated? Have they finally gotten the message? I think back in the day we were talking about maybe a $75 million normalized run rate for that business, but it now appears to be higher, particularly given the guide for the fourth quarter, so I would imagine it's higher. Can you talk about I&E, what's happening with the channel, and what a new normalized level is? That would be great.

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Yes. Thank you, Chris. Our Industrial and Embedded segment is doing great. I&E is doing well. We have talked about the really strong sequential and year-over-year growth, and we see this continue to grow throughout the rest of the year. The PMI now is at very positive levels worldwide. There's a bit of a temporary slowdown in China, but we continue to be very excited about the design wins and the physical AI momentum and the recovery of that business. The channel inventory is now where we need it to be. We're not focused as much on channel inventory anymore; we're focused on supply being the main focus and are very positive on all the different segments, including some of the new robotics and humanoids, where we're doing quite well. Some of the new autonomous vehicles, new medical applications, aerospace and defense — the list goes on in penetrating a few new market segments and accelerating the growth into 2027.

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

Let me just add one of the things: at Lattice, we are not impacted by automotive. This is a relatively small business for us. So that end market weakness is not having a drag on us.

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

The only other one — please go ahead.

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Melissa WeathersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

I wanted to touch on something you just talked about — the supply side. With everything seeming like it's coming back pretty hard, can you just talk about any constraints that you're seeing on the supply side, how you're managing it? And could this actually gate your growth going into next year?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Thank you, Melissa. As I said, we are doing well on the front-end fab side and the testing side on the back end. In the middle, on the assembly side, there are constraints across the industry right now. We and the rest of the industry are experiencing these constraints. We are putting capacity agreements in place and qualifying new capacity that we believe will get supply and demand in line by September, and we should be in good shape in Q4 and definitely for 2027.

Melissa WeathersAnalyst, Deutsche Bank

Great. And then on AMI, congrats on getting the deal closed. I know you've talked about your SAM, I think, doubling with the inclusion of AMI. So can you just talk about, is there any kind of new long-term growth rate framework that we should be thinking about for FPGAs? Is there like an adder to whatever percent growth you could have grown in the past? Just any help on how we can think about AMI layering and actually accelerating your FPGA sales would be helpful.

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Yes. A couple of things. From our long-term aspirational goal, we'd like to hit $3 billion by 2030. So that's the goal. We are already ahead by about a quarter. Three months ago we said we'd hit a $1 billion run rate by Q4, and with the combination of Lattice plus AMI, we just hit this in our guide in Q3 — a quarter ahead. So we're seeing the benefit of this. We should exit this year at about a $1.2 billion run rate. You can see where our growth is accelerating.

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Kevin GarriganAnalyst, Jefferies

Congrats on the great results. Fouad, just on the supply again. With these new negotiations that you're doing, are any of your manufacturing partners trying to negotiate higher prices? And can you pass those along to your customers?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Yes, the costs are increasing across the industry, not just costs from a supply chain point of view, but a whole bunch of expedite fees because the customers are all under pressure to get supply ASAP. So we're seeing cost increases across the industry. We're doing the best we can to absorb some of these costs, and we're going to have to pass some of these costs. So it's going to be a mixture of us absorbing some and passing some.

Kevin GarriganAnalyst, Jefferies

Okay. Great. And then you continue to see strong bookings, strong backlog kind of all the way into 2027. I mean has that visibility extended over the last 3 months? And how much of that backlog is noncancelable?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Very good question. The visibility is increasing daily. It's really unprecedented. We've got visibility all the way to the end of 2027. 2027 is pretty much booked. We're seeing that very strong. We are putting capacity agreements in place with our suppliers where we're going to have to take the capacity. In turn, we are putting capacity agreements with our customers and partners to make sure that our customers provide us with the same commitments. So yes, you are seeing this across the whole supply chain now as our suppliers and customers put these agreements in place.

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Ethan PotasnickAnalyst, TD Cowen

Congrats on the results. Just a near-term question. You guys guided the stand-alone FPGA business. But I was wondering, could you help us think about the relative growth rates across the various segments as we move through the second half?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Yes. We do break down our FPGA business between Comms and Compute and Industrial and Embedded, and you can see those numbers. In Q2, Comms and Compute was up 83% year-on-year and 18% sequentially. Industrial and Embedded was 36% year-on-year and 16% sequential. We haven't broken this up for Q3. On the AMI side, we expect AMI to grow about 25% year-on-year. So that would give you the three major segments.

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

We're seeing strong demand across our end markets. The Industrial and Embedded business has been lumpy in the past and likely will behave that way in the future, but the general trend is up.

Ethan PotasnickAnalyst, TD Cowen

Okay. Great. Very helpful. And then last quarter, the team suggested AI-related revenue would sort of approach 25% of company revenue in 2026. I was wondering if there was an update there and sort of how AI demand tracked during the quarter and where within that opportunity that growth is sort of coming from?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

We're on track to meet and exceed that 25% coming from AI-related revenue. The AI and agentic revolution is also driving growth in traditional infrastructure. We're seeing tremendous growth in the supporting cloud infrastructure — servers, networking, storage and memory — that in turn drives FPGA demand. So it's a bit harder to isolate AI only: if you categorize AI as workloads with GPUs, CPUs or XPUs inside, that comprises the 25% in some definitions, but the other parts of our business are also growing rapidly. In our Comms and Compute segment, our server business is growing even faster than the segment overall, which was up 83% year-on-year. You can see the rest of the traditional infrastructure is growing at the same rate, if not faster.

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Ruben RoyAnalyst, Stifel

Fouad, maybe just to follow up on that last point, thinking about the server growth. We've heard a lot recently about CPU attach and CPU. You talked about agentic a little bit in the prepared remarks. I'm just wondering if you could maybe talk about where you are on the CPU side with the core processors. Is that starting to drive some of the growth that you're seeing? Or is that still on the come? How do you think about that as you think about 2027?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

CPU has definitely been a strong driver of growth within traditional servers. We have not broken out server growth in more granular detail here, but our server growth is higher than our Comms and Compute segment overall, which was 83% year-on-year. We also feel that the AMI acquisition will help both Compute and Comms and Industrial and Embedded segments grow faster. There are synergies with customers and joint solutions we're developing, so the AMI acquisition should help drive higher growth rates across both FPGA segments and, in turn, help AMI grow faster as well.

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

To refresh what Fouad said earlier, in traditional servers our attach rate is growing as well. One CPU is multiple FPGAs going with it in the infrastructure that supports AI — a very healthy ecosystem for us.

Ruben RoyAnalyst, Stifel

Got it. Maybe just a follow-up. Fouad mentioned 25% year-over-year growth for AMI. Was that for Q3 or for 2027? And I guess the bigger question around that is I think you framed previously that AMI growth was maybe in the high teens, accelerating into 2027 off of that rate. Thinking through firmware attach rates on servers, could we assume at some point that AMI grows closer to your own server growth rate?

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

Right now, to clarify, when we said 25%, that's our expectation for 2027. We are still in the very initial period of integrating; we closed on July 27, and we are beginning to put meat around the bones of the strategy we talked about, which is developing solutions we'll bring to market that could further accelerate the growth rate. We have yet to quantify all of that, but that is a strategic driver of the acquisition.

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Srinivas PajjuriAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Fouad, on the new products, I think you gave us a target number for this year, roughly 20% to 25%, I believe. Just wondering how that's tracking? And also, given how strong of a growth you are seeing, I just looked at one of your competitors reporting, and it looks like you grew 50% over competition. So I'm just trying to understand, is this driven by share gains for you, new products? Or is it pricing related? I know you talked about demand being very strong, but just curious to understand how the new product ramp is going.

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Excellent question, Srini. We had guided to that range, and now we're going to exceed the high end of that range. So we expect new products this year to exceed 25% of total revenue. Our new products are contributing to that growth rate. The growth is across all our markets: Compute and Comms, Industrial and Embedded, and we'll start seeing it with AI. One thing I wanted to point out: I've been reading reports about the Rule of 60 — it used to be the Rule of 40, now the Rule of 60. The rule was like adding CAGR plus EBITDA margin. I want to point out we're at roughly a Rule of 105 right now. So we're above 100. We'll enjoy it for both Q2 and Q3. We're not promising to maintain that in perpetuity, but 62% growth and 40% plus EBITDA gives us about 105%. So you can see not just the revenue growth but also EPS and profitability growing faster than revenue growth.

Srinivas PajjuriAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. That's very helpful. And then on the AMI, the 25%, I just want to clarify that it's 25% over $200 million because you did talk about some hardware pass-through revenue.

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

That's correct. It's 25% over the $200 million.

Srinivas PajjuriAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. My question on that, Fouad or Lorenzo: it's a pretty solid growth. It's a very healthy environment out there. I'm just curious — I know it's early days — does it include any of the revenue synergies that you talked about? Or is it still kind of early days and more organic?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

It is early days on the revenue synergies. I do believe we're going to have revenue synergies on top of that, but this expectation does not include the revenue synergies.

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Quinn BoltonAnalyst, Needham & Co.

Just had a couple of quick clarifications or follow-ups. On AMI, will you report that as a third segment? Or going forward, do you plan to put it into Comms and Compute and Industrial and Embedded?

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

That's a great question. As we close the quarter and report, we're going to talk about the FPGA business as a segment and the AMI business as a segment, and we'll provide revenue and gross margin by those. We are working right now on how to best articulate the operating margins given that we're in the process of developing shared infrastructure and support.

Quinn BoltonAnalyst, Needham & Co.

Will you break out Comms and Compute and Industrial and Embedded within FPGA?

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

Yes, within FPGA we'll give you the same revenue breakdown we're giving you today.

Quinn BoltonAnalyst, Needham & Co.

Perfect. And then I don't know if I missed it — I apologize if I did — but did you say where channel inventory ended the June quarter? Was it below your two months target that you discussed last quarter?

Lorenzo A. FloresChief Financial Officer

Here's the way we're thinking about it now: we've gone from an environment of having to manage that down to get to the right level. We got there. What we're doing now with the channel is using it to help ensure supply to our customers. Once we got to around two months, it would probably fluctuate up and down. That's what we're seeing, and we're staying in that range.

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Melissa Dailey FairbanksAnalyst, Raymond James

I can't argue with the Rule of 105. That's not a bad target to hit. I had a follow-up question. I know that AMI helps expand your addressable market and how much you can actually address within those markets. In Industrial and Embedded, I'm assuming, especially as we get into more of robotics or some defense applications, automotive, some of these more highly regulated applications, is the go-to-market a little bit different even with AMI than it is in the compute segment?

Fouad TamerChief Executive Officer

Yes. There's going to be tremendous opportunity for AMI and Lattice to work together in Industrial and Embedded because these systems have strong needs for platform firmware and infrastructure manageability. In our early meetings, including at Computex in Taiwan and follow-on meetings with partners on physical AI, we're excited about how the integration of AMI and FPGA can offer new solutions to customers. Stay tuned — we'll have a lot more to say on that in future calls.

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Rick MuschaVice President, Investor Relations

Thanks, everyone, for joining us on the call today. We'll be attending the following investor events this quarter: the KeyBanc Technology Leadership Forum on August 11; the Jefferies Semiconductor, IT Hardware & Communications Technology Conference on August 26; and the Benchmark TMT 1-on-1 Conference on September 10. Thank you very much for your participation, and have a good evening.

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