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OperatorOperator

Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to Southside Bancshares' Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2025 Earnings Call. I will now turn the call over to Lindsey Bailes, VP.

Lindsey BailesVP

Thank you, Alexandra. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Southside Bancshares' Fourth Quarter and Year-end 2025 Earnings Call. A transcript of today's call will be posted on southside.com under Investor Relations. During today's call and in other disclosures and presentations, I'll remind you forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that could materially change our current forward-looking assumptions are described in our earnings release in our Form 10-K. Joining me today are President and CEO, Keith Donahoe; and CFO, Julie Shamburger. First, Keith will start us off with his comments on the quarter and then Julie will give an overview of our financial results. I will now turn the call over to Keith.

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Thank you, Lindsey, and welcome to today's call. Early in the fourth quarter, market conditions allowed us to continue the partial restructuring of our available-for-sale securities by selling approximately $82 million of lower-yielding long-duration municipal securities with a combined taxable equivalent yield of 2.6% and generating a $7.3 million net loss. All sales were completed at the end of October with net proceeds, together with additional portfolio cash flows and a $49.7 million sale of a T-bill reinvested in various low premium, primarily 5.5% coupon agency MBS, with an average yield of 5.36%. Similar to the third quarter, security sales, we believe the fourth quarter sales enhance future net interest income while providing additional balance sheet flexibility as we grow. We estimate the payback on the third quarter security sales to be less than 3.5 years. Overall, we experienced a million linked quarter increase in net interest income, resulting primarily from lower funding costs and moderate loan growth.

Our net interest margin expanded to 2.98%, and we expect additional net interest margin expansion resulting from the redemption of approximately $93 million of subordinated debt on February 15, 2026. The fourth quarter new loan production totaled approximately $327 million compared to third quarter production of approximately $500 million. Of the new loan production, $25 million funded during the quarter, with the unfunded portion of this quarter's production expected to fund over the next 6 to 9 quarters. Excluding regular amortization and line of credit activity, fourth quarter payoffs totaled approximately $164 million. While higher than the third quarter payoffs of $117 million, it was the second lowest quarter for payoffs during 2025. Third quarter CRE payoffs included 28 loans secured by industrial, retail and multifamily, medical office, general office, and commercial land. Most of these were concentrated in 5 industrial properties and 8 retail properties.

Outside of CRE payoffs, we did exit a C&I participation during the quarter due to pricing well below our comfort zone. Our loan pipeline dipped to $1.5 billion mid-quarter but rebounded after the first of the year to just over $2 billion today. The pipeline is well balanced with approximately 42% term loans and 58% construction or commercial lines of credit. This mix is unchanged from the third quarter. C&I-related opportunities represent approximately 20% of today's total pipeline and that's down slightly from third quarter's 22%. Credit quality remains strong during the fourth quarter. Nonperforming assets increased $2.6 million, primarily related to a $2.4 million loan secured by a small residential condo project, but remain concentrated in the previously disclosed $27.5 million multifamily loan we moved into the nonperforming category during the first quarter. Despite this loan not paying off in the fourth quarter, we remain optimistic that the borrower will finalize their refinance within the next 2 weeks.

As a percentage of total assets, nonperforming assets remained low at 0.45%. When considering our net income, earnings per share and other financial results, excluding the one-time loss on the sale of securities, we had an excellent quarter. Overall, the markets we serve remain healthy, and the Texas economy is anticipated to grow at a faster pace than the overall projected U.S. growth rate. With that, I'll turn the call over to Julie.

Julie ShamburgerCFO

Thank you, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to our fourth quarter and year-end call. For the fourth quarter, we were pleased to report net income of $21 million, an increase of $16.1 million or 327.2%. Diluted earnings per share were $0.70 for the fourth quarter, an increase of $0.54 per share linked quarter. We reported net income of $69.2 million for 2025, a decrease of $19.3 million or 21.8%, and diluted earnings per share of $2.29 compared to $2.91 for 2024. The decrease was driven by the restructuring of the AFS securities portfolio. As of December 31, loans were $4.82 billion, a linked quarter increase of $52.7 million or 1.1%. The linked quarter increase was driven by an increase of $29 million in construction loans, $24.1 million in commercial real estate loans, and $14.8 million in commercial loans, partially offset by decreases of $6.2 million in municipal loans and $5.7 million in 1 to 4 family residential loans.

The average rate of loans spent during the fourth quarter was approximately 6.6%. As of December 31, our loans with oil and gas industry exposure were $71 million or 1.5% of total loans compared to $70.6 million or 1.5% linked quarter. Nonperforming assets remained low at 0.45% of total assets as of year-end. Our allowance for credit losses decreased to $48.3 million for the linked quarter from $48.5 million on September 30. And linked quarter, our allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans decreased 1 basis point to 0.94% at December 31. During the fourth quarter, we continued restructuring a portion of our AFS securities portfolio that included sales of approximately $82 million of lower-yielding longer-duration municipal securities. Purchases of $373 million, primarily mortgage-backed securities occurred during the fourth quarter to replace securities sold during the restructuring of the AFS portfolio during the third and fourth quarters.

The purchases more than offset sales maturity and principal payments, resulting in an increase in the securities portfolio of $147.9 million or 5.8% to $2.70 billion at December 31 when compared to $2.56 billion on September 30. The increase for the linked quarter brought the total securities portfolio to a level consistent with the first and second quarters of 2025. As of December 31, we had a net unrealized loss in the AFS securities portfolio of $767,000, a decrease of $14.7 million compared to $15.4 million last quarter. The improvement occurred primarily due to the restructuring of the AFS portfolio and an improvement in the remaining AFS portfolio. There were no transfers of AFS securities during the fourth quarter. On December 31, the unrealized gain on the fair value hedges on municipal and mortgage-backed securities was approximately $788,000 compared to $905,000 linked quarter.

This unrealized gain more than offset the unrealized losses in the AFS securities portfolio. As of December 31, the duration of the total securities portfolio was 7.6 years compared with 8.7 years at September 30, and the duration of the AFS portfolio was 4.8 years compared to 6.5 years on September 30. At quarter end, our mix of loans and securities was 64% and 36%, respectively. The slight shift compared to 65% and 35%, respectively, last quarter. Deposits decreased $96.4 million or 1.4% on a linked-quarter basis due to a decrease in broker deposits of $233.5 million partially offset by an increase of $40.8 million in retail deposits and an increase of $86.3 million in public deposits. On February 15, we will redeem our $93 million of subordinated notes due in 2030. The rate on the notes adjusted during the fourth quarter to a floating rate of 7.1%. Our capital ratios remained strong with all capital ratios well above the threshold for well capitalized.

Liquidity resources remained solid with $2.78 billion in liquidity lines available as of December 31. We repurchased 369,804 shares of our common stock at an average price of $28.94 during the fourth quarter. There have been no purchases of our common stock since December 31, and we have approximately 762,000 shares remaining authorized for repurchase. Our tax equivalent net interest margin was 2.98%, an increase of 4 basis points on a linked-quarter basis, up from 2.94% at the end of the quarter. Our tax equivalent net interest spread for the same period was 2.31%, an increase of 5 basis points from 2.26%. The increase in the net interest margin and net interest spread is primarily due to lower funding costs. For the 3 months ended December 31, we had an increase in net interest income of $1.5 million or 2.7% compared to the linked quarter. Noninterest income, excluding the net loss on the sale of AFS securities increased 4 or 4% for the linked quarter, primarily due to an increase in deposit services, billing income, and brokerage services income partially offset by a decrease in other noninterest income.

Other noninterest income decreased primarily due to a decrease in swap fee income. Noninterest expense was $37.5 million for the fourth quarter, consistent with the last quarter with a slight decrease of $57,000. Our fully taxable equivalent efficiency ratio decreased to 52.28% as of December 31 from 52.99% as of September 30, primarily due to an increase in total revenue. We have budgeted a 7% increase in noninterest expense in 2026 over 2025 actual primarily related to salary and employment benefits, software expense, professional fees, retirement expense, and a one-time charge of approximately $800,000 in connection with the redemption of the subordinated notes on February 15. During 2025, we budgeted for several software initiatives that did not materialize, and we have allocated those into the 2026 budget. For the first quarter of 2026, we anticipate noninterest expense of approximately $39.5 million.

We recorded income tax expense of $3.8 million compared to $189,000 in the prior quarter, an increase of $3.6 million, driven by the loss on sales of AFS securities in the third quarter. Our effective tax rate was 15.3% for the fourth quarter, an increase compared to 3.7% last quarter. We are currently estimating an annual effective tax rate of 17.4% for 2026. Thank you for joining us today. This concludes our comments, and we will open the line for your questions.

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OperatorOperator

Your first question comes from the line of Woody Lay with KBW.

Woody LayAnalyst

I believe you just called out expense growth as what you're budgeting in 2026. I was hoping to get a little more detail on exactly how much of the incremental expense build is related to these software projects? And could you also talk about the hiring strategy and how that's built into the budget?

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Yes. I'll hit at a high level and Julie can provide some details. I don't have the breakdown in front of me on the bench between software and FTEs. But what's really happening is on the software front, we are looking at moving our core out of link. We're currently hosting it on-premise and we're going to take it off premise. In the long run, we anticipate that to create some efficiencies for us as we move into expanded growth mode and/or if we make an acquisition that's going to make that a more efficient prospect for us. So that's part of it. We're also starting an initiative to build out a data platform, which we do believe will give us over time much more insight into the raw data that we have in multiple systems right now. So those are the 2 biggest components of the software spend. From an FTE standpoint, some of this is we hope will make us more efficient in the long run as well because we are changing some of our processes within the loan origination group. We're pumping a high volume of loan growth into a system that probably wasn't ready for it yet. We are making some personnel changes and shifting people around, which means adding some staff in certain situations. So that's the bulk of what we're doing. Julie, if you've got any additional detail?

Julie ShamburgerCFO

I was just going to point out on the FTEs, since December 2023, our FTEs have been down about 6% in actual numbers. So that speaks somewhat to Keith's comments about adding some staff. Also, as far as the numbers in the software and data processing, we've got about $2.3 million, $2.4 million additional in the budget over the 2025 spend. So I don't know if that answers your question, Woody, the software and data processing is combined as reported in our 10-Q and 10-Ks and earnings.

Woody LayAnalyst

Got it. That's really helpful color. I appreciate that. Maybe a follow-up. You mentioned working on the core switch might help with M&A down the road. I just wanted to get your thoughts on just given the deal activity we've seen recently in Texas, how you are thinking about M&A for sell side in the current environment?

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Yes. It's still part of the strategy. We are open to discussions. As I've told a lot of folks, we're not going to acquire just to acquire. We're going to be strategic. If it's filling out a geography for us and/or picking up, as an example, we've got only a loan production office in Dallas. If we can find the right target in Dallas, that would be a good expansion for us because it would help us fill out the Metroplex. The same thing in Houston, where we have effectively a loan production office. We are opening a new retail location in the Woodlands, which should be opening in the next 60 days. But it's those target areas. In Austin, with only 2 locations, if the right opportunity comes around, we are discussing those situations and are open to it. I hope that helps.

Woody LayAnalyst

Yes, that definitely does. All right, that's all for me.

OperatorOperator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Rose with RJ.

Michael RoseAnalyst

Maybe we can just start on the margin. Obviously, the balance sheet restructuring on the securities restructuring was smaller this quarter than last, but you are going to redeem the sub debt that you mentioned. Just with those puts and takes in loan pricing competition, things like that, can you just give us some expectations on maybe what the first quarter margin could look like?

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Yes. It's going to be positive, although it will be muted. I think we'll see a bigger pickup as we move through the rest of the year. We do have a one-time charge coming in the first quarter for the redemption. But directionally, it's going to be positive, but it will pick up towards the end of the year.

Julie ShamburgerCFO

From the standpoint of the sub debt, it repriced in the middle of the fourth quarter, and it's going to go away in the middle of the first quarter. So strictly with respect to the $93 million, it's going to have about the same impact in the first quarter as it did in the fourth. But when those sources of funding are replaced in the second quarter, we'll certainly expect to see some improvement just with respect to that one piece of funding, if that makes sense.

Michael RoseAnalyst

Okay. Yes. Thanks for the clarification, Julie. I appreciate it. And then maybe as we just think about loan growth, I appreciate the comments at the beginning of the call just around some of the production and paydown activity. I know paydowns are really difficult to forecast. But just given some of the investments that you've made in people and opening up new locations over the past few years, should we think about a higher level of production? It seems like the environment is pretty conducive for loan growth here. Just wanted to get a sense for how we should think about at least on the production side as we move through the year.

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Yes. From a production standpoint, I anticipate us to probably exceed 25%. However, we do have a large number of payoffs that are in our forecast, some of which are these construction projects that have stayed on our books longer than they normally would as these projects are finished and stabilized occupancy comes around. We have a high number of those maturities happening this year. We anticipate some of those moving out into the permanent market and/or sales. These are some of the headwinds that we're still facing. I'm excited because I was a little concerned that the pipeline dropped to $1.5 billion in the middle of the fourth quarter, but we have rebounded strongly. We're back up over $2 billion now. Over half of that pipeline is in the very early stages, which means it hasn't run through our credit screening process, but they're starting to move through. We do have a significant number in the closing process right now. I would love to tell you I'm super optimistic that we may beat our numbers, but right now it's too early in the year to make that call. However, we are very active across all of the markets, and I do anticipate it being a good year for us on the loan growth side.

Michael RoseAnalyst

I appreciate it, Keith. And maybe just one final one for me. Obviously, the buyback stepped up a little bit this quarter. The restructuring is also a little bit smaller than the third quarter as well. But how should we think about the pace of buybacks from here? You guys will have decent capital accretion as we kind of move through the year. The stock is still relatively attractive on a tangible basis. Just wanted to get your thoughts, updated thoughts on the buyback.

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Yes, from a strategic perspective, we will remain opportunistic with our approach. Future acquisitions could affect this strategy. In terms of capital allocation, our primary focus is on retiring subordinated debt, followed closely by stock buybacks and then mergers and acquisitions. All these elements will work in tandem, although one may influence another, and we will see how this unfolds throughout the year.

Michael RoseAnalyst

All right. I'll step back.

OperatorOperator

Your next question comes from the line of Brett Rabatin with Hovde.

Brett RabatinAnalyst

Julie, I wanted to start off on just the fee income outlook from here. It seems like brokerage has had some pretty good trends. I was curious if there were any drivers that you were specifically thinking about for 2026 in terms of fee revenues? And then just any thoughts on the outlook for 2026?

Julie ShamburgerCFO

Sure, I'll take that one. We are expecting a significant increase in our fee income and have budgeted about $1.5 million for this increase. A large portion of this will come from trust income fees. As we've mentioned in the past few quarters, we have recruited additional talent in that area and have built a strong team that we are excited about. We are also planning to expand this team into the Fort Worth North Texas area, as our current presence is mainly in East Texas and Southeast Texas. We have budgeted for additional fees there and anticipate an increase in treasury fees and brokerage services, as we have seen positive momentum in those two areas over the past year. Most of the increase is expected to stem from these sources.

Brett RabatinAnalyst

Okay. That's helpful, Julie. I wanted to revisit the securities portfolio. Have all the actions you anticipated occurred, or is there anything else you plan to do? Or will any future actions be more opportunistic based on changing rates?

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Yes. We will continue to be opportunistic. Currently, rates are not favorable for us to proceed with any moves. We're monitoring the situation closely on a daily basis. If we notice the right indicators, we will take action. However, for now, we are maintaining a hold.

Brett RabatinAnalyst

Okay. And then maybe lastly, you've mentioned hirings. There's been a lot of M&A activity in Texas. I was just wondering, Keith, what are your thoughts on that disruption? Is there an opportunity for you in the Dallas or Fort Worth market, either with people or clients? Is there anything specific you're targeting related to this disruption?

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Yes. We're seeing opportunity both from a people perspective and a customer perspective. We've been working on a couple of C&I opportunities in the Metroplex that are sort of being disrupted because of the acquisitions we're seeing. The transaction that was announced yesterday in Houston, I think, we could see some activity out of that, but it's too early to tell. We have our antenna up, and we are looking. We'll be looking for both customer displacement and employee displacement. So yes, we're active in that and will continue to be.

Brett RabatinAnalyst

Okay. Great for the color.

OperatorOperator

Your next question comes from the line of Jordan Ghent with Stephens.

Jordan GhentAnalyst

I just wanted to ask a question on M&A, kind of going back to that. How do you guys think about that as far as the target asset size and especially in relation to crossing $10 billion?

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

We are not looking to acquire anything in the $2 billion range. We are aiming for something below $1.5 billion. However, if we come across an opportunity that significantly boosts our position, we will consider it. In Texas, there are fewer options in the $3 billion to $5 billion range, while we find more opportunities under $2 billion. We are actively searching for prospects that could help us approach our goal, which might enable us to surpass $10 billion with a subsequent transaction. It's a bit of a puzzle we are putting together, but we are persistently exploring opportunities and sticking to the same strategy we've employed over the past couple of years.

Jordan GhentAnalyst

Okay. And then maybe just one follow-up question for Julie on the operating expense for that 1Q 26 number, the $39.5 million. Does that include that one-time charge? Or is that excluding that one-time charge of $800,000?

Julie ShamburgerCFO

Yes, Jordan, it will include it.

OperatorOperator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Keith Donahoe, President and CEO, for closing remarks.

Keith DonahoePresident and CEO

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your interest in Southside Bancshares and the opportunity to answer your questions. We're optimistic about 2026 and look forward to reporting first quarter results during our next earnings call in April. Thank you.

OperatorOperator

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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