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Thank you. Welcome to the OceanFirst second quarter of 2026 earnings call. I am Alfred Goon, SVP of Corporate Development and Investor Relations. Before we kick off the call, we'd like to remind everyone that our quarterly earnings release and related earnings supplement can be found on the company website, OceanFirst.com. Our remarks today may contain forward-looking statements and may refer to non-GAAP financial measures. Participants should refer to our SEC filings for a complete discussion of forward-looking statements and associated risk factors. Thank you, and now I will turn the call over to Christopher Maher, Chief Executive Officer of OceanFirst.
Thank you, Alfred. Good morning. Thank you to all who have been able to join our second quarter of 2026 earnings conference call. This morning I'm joined by our President, Joseph Lebel, and our Chief Financial Officer, Patrick Barrett. We appreciate your interest in our performance and this opportunity to discuss our results with you. This morning we will provide brief remarks about the financial and operating performance for the quarter, and some color regarding the outlook for our business. We may refer to the slides filed in connection with the earnings release throughout the call. After our discussion, we look forward to taking your questions. We reported second quarter results that reflect the closing of our transformational acquisition of Flushing Financial Corporation on June 1. On a GAAP basis, we reported a net loss of $0.04 per fully diluted share, which was driven by $0.47 per share, or $33.6 million, of non-recurring merger-related expenses net of taxes. On a core basis, which excludes non-recurring items, earnings per share was $0.43, or $30.5 million, unchanged from the prior quarter and up 39% from the prior year. Pre-tax, pre-provision core earnings grew by 29% from the prior quarter to $44.5 million. We've seen quarterly improvement in the company's performance in the second quarter of 2026 in net interest income, net interest margin, and return on average assets. This highlights our multi-quarter journey from our revenue-generating investments as we continue to improve towards peer profitability levels. This week our Board also approved the quarterly cash dividend of $0.20 per common share, marking the company's 118th consecutive quarterly cash dividend. As mentioned previously, we completed our acquisition of Flushing Financial Corporation on June 1 concurrent with the $225 million strategic investment from Warburg Pincus, which was priced at $19.76 per share. Flushing added approximately $8.7 billion in total assets, $5 billion in loans, and $7.4 billion in deposits, along with 30 retail branches across New York City and Long Island, bringing our combined franchise to approximately $23 billion in assets. We're thrilled to welcome the Flushing team and their customers to the OceanFirst family. We also repositioned our balance sheet by selling $1.3 billion of multifamily loans acquired from Flushing, which eliminated the majority of our exposure to New York City rent-regulated properties and reduced the bank's commercial real estate concentration by approximately 50 percentage points to 381%. The proceeds were reinvested into highly liquid investment-grade securities. Integration planning is well underway, and we anticipate full integration of Flushing's operations and systems, including the systems conversion and rebranding, by the end of the third quarter of 2026. We're confident in the strategic and financial rationale of this combination, and we are already seeing competitive wins in both talent and customer acquisition. We are on track to achieve the cost savings and returns outlined at the transaction announcement. A significant portion of our cost savings is expected shortly following systems conversion. Pat will provide additional details on the financial impact of the transaction in his remarks. We remain focused on executing our organic growth strategy, which continues to be reflected in our underlying results this quarter, while also approaching the integration of Flushing with a sense of urgency. I'm proud of the pace at which our staff is moving related to both organic initiatives and the Flushing integration. At this point, I'll turn the call over to Joe for additional color on these businesses.
Thanks, Chris. I'll start with loan originations for the quarter, which totaled $642 million, an increase of 50% from the prior quarter. Excluding the impact of the Flushing acquisition and the multifamily loan sale, the underlying commercial organic loan growth was approximately $154 million, or 2% from the prior quarter, reflecting the company's focus on core relationships. These results underscore the continued strength of the core growth initiatives, which the Flushing franchise will further bolster. The C&I business grew 8% on an annualized basis, reflecting the continued momentum from our recruitment efforts in 2024 and 2025. We've recruited another 17 commercial bankers so far in 2026, and will continue to be opportunistic with hiring efforts throughout the remainder of the year. Total deposits grew by $6.6 billion during the quarter to $17.8 billion, driven by the $7.4 billion of deposits acquired from Flushing. Excluding Flushing, deposits declined modestly, primarily due to seasonal outflows in government deposits and a reduction in brokered deposits. Positively, we did see a 6% increase in non-interest-bearing deposits. The premier bank deposits grew by $150 million, while the cost of deposits dropped by 17 basis points. Non-interest-bearing deposits crossed the $100 million mark during the quarter. The group now manages 426 clients and 1,879 accounts and continues to build this momentum. As an added benefit, the premier teams contributed $45 million in loan arrangements for the quarter. Customer engagement and calling activity has been significant, and the addition of Flushing's branch footprint throughout New York City and Long Island now provides tailwind moving forward. We remain confident in our 2026 deposit targets and have recently added 2 new premier teams in Manhattan and Long Island. I wanted to add a brief summary of our calling efforts to date with the Flushing teams in the commercial and retail segments of their market. Clients and notable centers of influence in all segments of the business have been welcoming. They are optimistic that we can continue to support their needs while using the scale of the combined company to grow with them, in some cases, in the commercial bank specifically, grow exponentially. Recent visits in the Asian community specifically have surfaced several significant loan and deposit opportunities in both C&I and CRE. Lastly, non-interest income was $10.6 million during the quarter, up from $6.7 million in the prior quarter, excluding non-core items and Flushing's contribution of $1.4 million. Other income increased $2.5 million, primarily driven by higher net gains on other real estate activity and commercial swap income. Overall, non-interest income levels were in line with our expectations. With that, I'll turn the call over to Pat to review the remaining areas of the quarter.
Thanks, Joe. Good morning, everyone. We delivered our 8th consecutive quarter of net interest income growth, which increased $24 million, or 25% from the prior quarter, $33 million, or 38% from the prior year. This performance was driven by the addition of Flushing, which contributed $19 million of net interest income, with the remaining increase largely reflective of earning asset growth. Interest margin expanded 12 basis points to 3.05%. Loan yields increased, reflecting new originations and the net impact of adding the Flushing portfolio. Total deposit costs were 2.06%, reflecting the addition of Flushing's deposit base. Looking ahead, we expect net interest income to benefit further from a full quarter of the combined franchise. Our underlying asset quality remains strong. Reported ratios this quarter reflect the fair value marks on Flushing's acquired loans, including purchased credit deteriorated loans, which elevated our reported non-performing and criticized loan levels, but are not indicative of underlying credit deterioration. Excluding acquired credit deteriorated loans, non-performing loans to total loans were 0.33%, and non-performing assets to total assets were 0.38%, both consistent with our historically low levels. Criticized and classified loans did increase to 3.12% of total loans impacted by the Flushing acquisition, but still remained below peer averages. The increase in criticized and classified loans was driven by the application of OceanFirst credit rating methodology to the Flushing portfolio, which bears repeating, does not reflect a deterioration in credit performance. We have no inherent concerns in the pro forma customer base. Our allowance for credit losses increased to 1.29% of total loans, primarily reflecting the day 1 reserve established for the Flushing portfolio. Net charge-offs were de minimis, representing only 5 basis points of average total loans on an annualized basis. Turning to expenses, GAAP operating expenses for the quarter were $130 million, including $43 million of merger-related expenses. On a core basis, operating expense of $87 million included approximately $15 million of 1 month of Flushing operations. Excluding Flushing, our core expense base of $72 million continued to reflect disciplined expense management across the company. Capital levels remain strong following the acquisition with an estimated common equity Tier 1 ratio of 10.7% flat to the previous quarter. That capital position was supported by the $225 million strategic investment from Warburg Pincus that funded concurrently with the closing of the Flushing transaction. Book value per share was $18.19, reflecting the impact of purchase accounting and the very substantial increase in our allowance for credit losses. Quick word on taxes. Our reported effective tax rate this quarter was impacted by non-deductible merger expenses and a one-time deferred tax revaluation related to the acquisition. On a normalized basis, our ETR was approximately 28%. Given our new profile, taxability, expect our go-forward rate to remain around that level, absent any tax policy changes for the near term. With the Flushing acquisition now closed, we're updating our guidance on the pro forma combined company for the remainder of 2026. For loans and deposits, we expect 1% to 2% growth from our June 30 levels by year-end. That interest margin should continue to expand to a range of 3.07% to 3.12% in Q3, 3.09% to 3.14% in Q4, subject to average balance, seasonal volatility, and with no rate changes modeled through the second half of the year. We expect other income of $12 million to $16 million per quarter. We expect operating expenses for the third quarter to decline to the $120 million to $125 million range, declining further in the fourth quarter to $110 million to $115 million as cost savings begin to be realized. As we complete the integration of Flushing and mature our efforts to apply AI-driven automation, we expect that operating leverage will continue to improve throughout 2027. Finally, capital is expected to remain strong and grow with earnings from the current level. We plan to provide detailed guidance for 2027 in the fourth quarter, but I just wanted to highlight that our 2027 profitability targets remain essentially unchanged from when we announced the Flushing deal. One last point, just to talk about consensus estimates. While there's a fair amount of variability among individual analysts and line items within our financials, on average, the earnings estimates look reasonable and should be generally aligned with our outlook for the second half of the year and for next year, both of which, again, remain consistent with our initial estimates at the time we announced the transaction.
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Our first question comes from Peter Winter from DA Davidson. Peter, your line is open.
Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to start on the margin. The outlook for the second half of the year assumes no rate changes, but can you talk about how you're positioned if we do get 1 or 2 rate hikes? And then second, on page 9 of the presentation, you mentioned that, due to competitive pressures, it could pressure the margin. If you could just elaborate on that, and is that contemplated in the margin guidance for the second half of this year?
Sure, maybe I'll take a quick shot. This is Pat. Impact of rate hikes: when we combine the organization, we absorbed Flushing's liability sensitivity with our relative neutrality on interest rates. It was just the shape of where the balance sheets were in respect. We added hedges to that that kind of brought us back into a more neutral rate position. So we're modeling something that's modestly liability sensitive, so a rate hike would be very modestly dilutive, if you will, to revenue. I'd say that a 25-basis-point rate hike on an annual basis would be about a $5 million pre-tax impact to revenues. Conversely, if we got a rate cut, which nobody's modeling, but if we did, because of our modest liability sensitivity, that would be about a $4 million a year run rate. So we remain relatively neutral. I think as important, if not more so, is what happens in the belly of the curve and what happens with 5-year and 10-year rates for new originations and renewals because I think most people would agree that we're at fairly elevated levels for those. We like the shape of the curve, so if there's a parallel increase in the curve, we're kind of indifferent to rate hikes or cuts. The second part of your question was competitive pressure. I think that's just a continuous pressure on pricing for new loans, particularly the kind of loans that we're considering. Both bank and non-bank pressures are keeping spreads on new loans at pretty historically tight levels. Joe, do you want to add to that?
I think it's a fair statement. We've seen an increase and a focus on our construction business, which tends to have better margins. So I think, as you've seen in the latest quarter, the average yield is pushing 6.70%, 6.72%, which I think is indicative of us focusing on construction in C&I versus permanent CRE loans.
Got it. If I could ask on credit: any guidance maybe you can provide with regards to net charge-offs or provision expense in the back half of this year? In the press release you mentioned a $21 million commercial relationship that went non-performing, and then two commercial relationships for $56 million that went to criticized. Any details on those loans?
So I guess I'll give you just some sense on net charge-offs. I think as the company gets...
Thank you. We are experiencing I can hear you. Apologies for the brief technical delay.
I am. You started with the charge-off and then I lost you.
Sorry about that. So if you think about net charge-offs, historically, both OceanFirst and Flushing had close to, I mean, 5 basis points and 0 in charge-offs in any given quarter. As business shifts to more C&I lending, you're going to see that it won't be unusual to have charge-offs from quarter to quarter, but I don't think they're going to be a material impact on profitability. So, slightly higher than our historical performance, but nothing that would stand out or be unusual, and probably still well at or below the peer group levels of net charge-offs. I'm sorry, Peter, your second question was on the criticized loan. Let me just ask Joe to cover that for you. Peter, I'm sorry.
In the $21 million loan, the bank and the borrower have a plan in place. We believe we're well secured. We have updated appraisals, and I expect that that'll resolve itself before the end of the year, either through an upgrade or a refinance. We're well informed on our large borrowers.
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Operator, we're just checking to make sure the backup line is working. Yes, the backup line has been staged. Please ensure to mute all other lines and microphones in the room and proceed. Okay. Sorry for that interruption again, Peter. I think we were on the classified loan. I just want Joe to take that from the top again and walk through that.
Right. So he has started with a $21 million commercial.
So the $21 million CRE loan, we have a plan in place. The borrower and the bank, we expect that that will be resolved before the end of the year, either through an upgrade or a refinance. And then on the other assets you referenced and criticized, downgrades come and go quarter over quarter. We're well aware of what we need to do on both sides of the house, and we remain pretty confident. I'll leave it at that.
Okay. And then just one quick housekeeping. You mentioned with the expense guidance for the third quarter there's the one-time expense associated with the new digital banking platform. How much is that?
It's not significant. It's probably $2 million.
Got it. Okay. Thanks for taking the questions.
I just want to demonstrate that we're continuing funding our ongoing platform investments core run rate, which still is hovering kind of at the $70-ish million a quarter range.
Our next question comes from the line of David Bishop with Hovde Group. David, your line is open.
Yes, thank you. Good morning, gentlemen. Quick follow-up on the net interest margin in terms of the guidance. Do you think that's going to be mostly driven by earning asset yield improvement or still room to move on the deposit side or maybe a combination of both? Just curious how you see that rise occurring.
Definitely both. We've got opportunities to improve our funding base and even bigger opportunities with Flushing's funding base as we move forward and redeploy some of them. So there's really good opportunity on the funding side. On the yield side, I think it kind of depends on the mix and competitive pressures. So the more construction and small business that we do, the better from a straight yield perspective. C&I, which carries with it a lot of other opportunities and self funding, has super tight spreads and is probably the most competitive space right now.
Got it. And in terms of the multifamily loans sold there, just curious, is there still sort of a banking relationship with those customers or has that been completely divested?
That's a great question, Dave. No, we actually sorted out the primary relationships in that and retained loans for that exact reason. So we retained loans where we had primary relationships and strong deposit profiles. And those customers typically had pretty strong cash flows. So that's one of the ways we kind of split out what we wanted to keep and what we wanted to move away from. So we don't think that'll have any impact on the other areas of the bank. But for the most part, the loans that we sold were lending-only relationships.
Got it. Appreciate the color. Thanks.
Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Tamayo with Raymond James. Daniel, your line is open.
Thank you. Good morning, guys. So, yes, I guess maybe just to go back to the margin, I apologize for being a dead horse here. You reiterated the guidance for the 3.20% margin in 2027 post-merger. Can you give us your deposit cost assumptions underlying that margin in '27? It seems like most banks are talking about competition being stiff right now on the funding side and I think a lot of banks are talking about funding costs bottoming. I get you have the Flushing funding base to integrate but just curious how that plays out. Maybe some color on Flushing components and how you can lower that, trying to fill the gap between funding costs going down or moving up.
I think it's both sides. Danny, it's Chris Maher. Both sides you're going to see a little bit more of a mix shift than you are kind of environmental trends. So both on the loan side, as Joe mentioned, kind of beefing up. Historically, OceanFirst has done a nice job around construction. So we have an opportunity to do a little more of that moving with the extra balance sheet from Flushing. And then on the deposit side, a mixed shift around products. The pressure you see out in the markets is out there. CDs cost a fair amount, but we're talking about bringing down the level of brokered. We're talking about optimizing pricing in the government deposit base, particularly in New York. The New York government deposit base costs a fair amount more than the New Jersey government deposit base. So we see some tactical opportunities there, but think mixed shift in product. As you saw, we had a nice increase in non-interest-bearing this quarter. Flushing's done a nice job historically over the last several quarters around non-interest. So leaning into that new branch network and doing a mix shift. All right. Thanks for that, Chris. So I guess next, on the expenses, I want to make sure I understand the guidance. I think you said it was $2 million for the digital banking, the one-timers within the guidance that you put out. So as we think about the back half of the year is that the way to think about that just taking $2 million off of the $110 million to $115 million or is it from a kind of run rate end of the year number like is it $108 million to $113 million in the fourth quarter and then that's a good number to grow off of?
I'd rather think of expenses as a good number to shrink off of as we exit this year, because remember that the majority of our cost saves are only just kicking in in the fourth quarter because of our system conversions that won't be fully completed until the end of the quarter. So there's some cost saves that occur, but the biggest chunk of those will start in the fourth quarter, and then there's continued opportunities to further rationalize vendors as we move into next year. So I would hope that we're on a glide path to continue to bring it down a little bit, even in the face of inflationary pressures. See us with a run rate that's closer to $100 million than $110 million.
A good way to think about the expense momentum is in Q3, we had some employee separations related to the initial in the merger but as we get into Q4 the systems conversion is likely to happen in September. It's been our practice to keep most of the staff within the bank for at least one month afterwards to make sure that the customer experience is exactly what we want it to be. So you'll see staff departures in earnest at the end of October, which will benefit the fourth quarter a bit, but that will help even more in the first quarter of '27.
How should we think about the amount of cost saves left in the first quarter? Is the first quarter then the first clean quarter that we should build on? Or is even 2027 you're hoping to take it down from that first quarter number?
The first 2027 quarter will be the first clean quarter, but we think there are opportunities to improve operating leverage throughout the year. So even if that means just holding expenses flat or down a little bit quarter to quarter and avoiding what would typically be inflationary increases, you'll see we're planning for more significant growth in loans and deposits in '27. So if you're holding expenses flat or coming down a little bit, the operating leverage builds up by the end of '27.
Okay, great. Thanks for all the color, Chris. Appreciate it.
Our next question comes from the line of Christopher Marinac with Brean Capital. Christopher, your line is open.
Hey, thanks. Good morning. Chris and Pat and team. You've wanted to have a large reserve for a long time, so you're finally here. I guess my question is should we think of this as a permanent change, number one, and number two, is the extra tangible book dilution something that we can kind of make up for relatively quickly?
Yes, I think the, you know, we see a lot of earnings momentum going into '27, so I think you'll be building back tangible book value as you go throughout the year. And then one thing I just want to point out, and Pat mentioned this in his comments, if you think about the source of the tangible book value dilution, the most significant individual line item was the build in the allowance for credit losses. So we moved what was in the equity account over into the allowance account, which provides for a much stronger balance sheet and more consistent ACL coverage with our peer group, but it's not like that money left the company in any way. It's just a stronger ACL. So that was about, if you think about it in dollar terms, that was about $80 million of net reserve build on top of the reserves that both Flushing and OceanFirst had coming into the quarter. So that was the most significant line item. And we certainly don't expect that that's loss content. The second biggest item is the purchase accounting marks, which will come back to us and accrete into income over the next couple of years. So because of the sources of the dilution, we were a little less concerned about that. But we do expect earnings to pick up nicely in '27 and start to build that tangible book back.
Great, Chris. Thank you for that background and thanks for hosting us this morning.
All right, thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Emily Lee with KBW. Emily, your line is open.
Hey everyone, this is Emily stepping in for Tim Switzer. Thanks for taking my question. Given the progress made in commercial banking initiatives and the recruitment of some revenue-producing talent over the last few years and your commentary on remaining opportunistic on the hiring front, can you dive deeper into any incremental investments you plan to make in that area?
One thing I would say, Emily, is that the recruiting season is typically heaviest in Q1 because commercial bankers often wait until after bonus season to move. We expect that hiring season will be in Q1. We have already seen an uptick in interest from qualified commercial bankers who really like the coverage in New York that we got from Flushing. We're talking to commercial bankers in New York that might not have considered us as strong an opportunity as they did in the past. And there's just the dynamics of having a larger balance sheet and bigger capital base. So players from larger banks, which is typically our recruiting base, would feel more comfortable coming to a firm of the size we are now. We will be a more attractive destination for talent. At this point, we don't expect any significant increase in expenses because we think that we can self-fund a lot of this through technology initiatives and through rotation of how we spend our money instead of a net extra. We'll keep everybody posted. If we have good news in the first half of next year and are able to hire more bankers than we thought, we'll update guidance.
That's really helpful. And then on capital, following the completion of the Flushing acquisition, can you discuss your capital priorities going forward? What level of repurchases should we anticipate going forward? Do you have any appetite for further bank M&A, maybe in 2027 or beyond?
Our priorities are straightforward. Our best priority is organic growth, and we hope to use the capital we expect to accrete for organic growth next year. That's the biggest priority. If we don't find the right quality of growth and wind up with an excess capital position, our number one priority would be buybacks. We're heads down focused on the franchise right now. We're not talking about M&A.
Great. Well, thanks for taking my questions. Congrats on the quarter.
Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc. Matthew, your line is open.
Hey, good morning. I was hoping we could start with overall balance sheet size thoughts and guidance. I'm most curious about the interplay between loan growth and securities from here. Should we be thinking there's a 1-for-1 offset, securities into loans, basically maintaining a flat balance sheet? And if that is the case, how long do you anticipate that dynamic going on for?
If you go back a step, we did increase the amount of securities in the balance sheet when we did the loan sale. We were able to buy securities at a lower risk weight that had a higher yield than the loans we sold. It wound up being a good trade. Going forward, we're probably a little heavy in securities, so we'd pull that down a little. But we want to maintain a good liquidity position. That's one of the most important things we achieved this quarter: on-hand liquidity, a lower loan-to-deposit ratio. The first place we would go is pulling down securities a little bit. I think you'll see a flat balance sheet this year, and then any growth would probably be in '27 after we've massaged the securities number.
Does that balance sheet outlook give you flexibility to test higher cost community deposits, perhaps work downs from brokered deposits and lower deposit costs? I think the spot costs at the end of the quarter was 2.26%, about 20 basis points higher. Is that what's providing you the room to lower that from current levels and see where it goes?
Absolutely. That's the chief advantage of having that excess liquidity and the lower loan-to-deposit ratio. We don't have to be as careful or match the market every day. To give you longer-term guidance, being more liquid, all things equal, makes us a more valuable franchise. You might see loan to deposit pick up a little, but we think of it staying below 95% rather than closer to 100%. We will use that advantage in pricing. There's probably $300 million to $400 million of securities we parked because yields were better than leaving them in cash. We'll look to recycle those and cash flows into better yielding opportunities as they come up. Most of that will probably be done in the third quarter; we wanted to put cash to work quickly. There'll be some churn, but it shouldn't affect the overall magnitude of the portfolio or the mix of loans versus securities.
Okay. I want to come back to that, but one more on the balance sheet mix. What is the strategy with the remaining stub amount of rent-regulated multifamily? Is that saleable at similar marks? Is that something you intend to do, or more of a work down over time through maturities and payoffs? Also curious if there's anything else within the Flushing loan portfolio that we should think of as running off or being expedited for disposition.
I would consider that asset class to be in a runoff posture, so we expect it will decline slowly over the next 8 to 12 quarters. Those were pretty good loans. We had loans to deposit customers. We had loans that might have had an interest rate swap or a participant position, which made them less liquid. Strong debt service, very low LTVs, delinquencies de minimis. We're happy to have those clients and let that resolve over time. That said, we recognize there's public policy risk to the asset class, so we've got a 14.5% credit reserve against them and marked them aggressively. It's small and will run off. These are 50% LTVs, 1.40x debt service coverage, average yields of what we're left with. They were just not as easily securitizable, which is why they didn't go into the larger sale we did in June. I think your second question about other assets: we're done with the balance sheet restructure. It's a clean July 1 balance sheet to move off of, and we're focused on organically growing it as outlined earlier.
My last one: regarding NIM, there's a lot of moving pieces. Can you help with expectations for loan yield and securities yields supporting the NIM range for the third quarter?
One thing to point out: just like deposit spot costs, on the loan side, we only had one month of purchase accounting accretion on the loan side. So you'll see an offset as we experience a full quarter's worth of accretion on that loan portfolio. That'll be helpful in bringing loan yields up.
Yes. Probably the biggest driver is the full quarter's worth of accretion moving. We had about $8 million of accretion in the second quarter to net interest income, and we'll have $16 million to $18 million as we move into the next quarter on a run-rate basis.
Okay, I'll leave it there. Thank you very much. I know I asked a lot.
Our next question comes from the line of Manuel Navas with Piper Sandler. Manuel, your line is open.
Staying on the balance sheet for a moment, can you talk about the hedging strategy a bit? Flushing was liability sensitive. What are you putting on and how long is it termed out for? Does it contemplate you shifting your own funding base eventually not needing that in the future? Just kind of talk through that a bit, please.
I'll let Pat walk you through the duration. Philosophically, we want to run a reasonably balanced shop. We were pretty neutral prior to the acquisition. Pat mentioned the acquisition made us liability sensitive, so our hedges focused more on tail risk outside the normal operating environment. The normal plus or minus 100 basis points doesn't move the number much for us. But without hedges, you would have seen more risk in plus 200 to plus 400 and minus 200 to minus 400. It was an exercise around limiting longer-term risk. You've seen the duration and our return to a more neutral position over time.
Yes, the hedges we put on were essentially caps and collars, just to hedge against spikes. We hedged about $1.3 billion that ranged out over 3-, 4-, 5-, 6-year periods. We're left with some modest liability sensitivity largely driven by fixed rates on the deposit side we inherited. As we roll out of fixed-rate deposits into non-maturity deposits, that will continue to help. Our goal would be to have a relatively neutral balance sheet because predicting short-term rates is very difficult. Predicting long-term rates is also difficult, so staying short is the way to go. From a duration perspective, we've ticked up our duration modestly with the acquisition. We're probably in the 4 to 5 year range on the asset side duration, and the securities duration ticked up along with the loans. On the liability side, for the most part, we remain quite short.
That's helpful. Can I shift to loan growth drivers? Walk through the loan portfolio places where you might see continued runoff. There's a comment of rent-regulated running off, but you have a lot of legacy momentum in commercial. Talk about go-forward loan growth and when the Flushing team will add more to it.
A couple of comments. Some of the momentum is by adding commercial bankers, as Joe mentioned. There's a meaningful opportunity in the Flushing base to become a bigger part of many clients' wallet share. The size of the balance sheet and loan limits already give us opportunities. We've met useful long-term Flushing clients who can do more with us than they could with Flushing. That could be a meaningful driver over the next several quarters.
Typically when you do these deals, there's a little bit of a lull because clients are assessing the combined entity and some salespeople are as well. As Chris mentioned, we've had a positive outcome early on. We've done customer events and days in market, which have been valuable. The vast majority of the Flushing book was smaller CRE transactions and they had a fledgling C&I business. So the opportunity to do things at larger scale with more boots on the ground and some sophistication will benefit. It's one of the densest markets in the country, and individual portfolios have opportunity.
Some expected runoff in residential. We talked about the rent-regulated running off slowly. Where are some of the headwinds?
Those are headwinds, but the guidance we gave for growth in '27 is net of those headwinds. Also, our wind percentage in New York should go up. We entered New York in 2019 with five branches at a $2 billion franchise and were doing well. Adding 30 branches and visibility should be very helpful. We will rebrand the Flushing branches; that will be done by October 1. One reason you see a slight elevation in expenses in Q4 is we expect to do a significant brand launch in New York that will provide visibility and credibility. The wind percentage in New York should be better in '27 because people will know us better and feel more comfortable. There's a comfort level people get when they drive by your branches.
My final one: 1% ROA next year isn't the final target. With things closed now, what are your thoughts on exiting '27 with the trajectory to a better ROA and the best ways to accomplish that?
Long-term ROA targets: the minimum floor for us would be more like 1.20%. If you don't get to that level, capital levels will remain range bound. You need to be up in that area to reach cost of capital. In '27, it's to not just get to 1% but get above 1%, exit the year strong, and then look toward that target in '28.
Executing on cost saves, more substantial loan growth, getting the 3.20% NIM—any other pieces to that better trajectory?
If we do those things, it all holds together. Over time, as the balance sheet grows, we'd get non-interest expense closer to 175 basis points. Couple that with a 3.20% margin and you'll be doing pretty well.
Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc. Matthew, your line is open.
Just a quick follow-up clarification. Pat, I think you had said $8 million in accretable yield this quarter. The press release says net accretion was closer to $1.1 million or $1.2 million. I was modeling $4.5 million to $5 million next quarter. I think you were referring just to the loan side. Maybe you could clarify.
You're absolutely right. It was about $1 million in June, one month. That will be about $5 million in the third quarter. It's driven in part off loan maturities. It'll drop down a little bit, roughly $3 million-ish, maybe a little under that in the fourth quarter. So the full year impact for this year is a little over $8 million. That will double and be $16 million to $18 million per year for at least the next two to three years.
Okay, that's it. Thank you. Sorry for the misspoke.
We have reached the end of our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to Christopher for closing remarks.
Thank you. We appreciate your time today and your continued support of OceanFirst Financial Corp. We look forward to speaking with you in October about our third quarter results, and we'll provide an update in our merger integration at that point, too. Thanks very much. Enjoy the rest of your summer. This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.