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Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to BrightSpring Health Services, Inc. Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Jennifer Phipps, Chief Accounting Officer. Please go ahead.
Good morning. Thank you for participating in today's conference call. My name is Jennifer Phipps, Chief Accounting Officer of BrightSpring. I am joined on today's call by Jon Rousseau, Chief Executive Officer; and Jim Mattingly, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier today, BrightSpring released financial results for the quarter ended September 30, 2024. A copy of the press release and presentation is available on the company's website. Please note that today's discussion will include certain forward-looking statements that reflect our current assumptions and expectations, including those related to our future financial performance and industry and market conditions. Such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. We encourage you to review the information in today's press release and presentation as well as in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q that will be filed with the SEC.
Specific risk factors and uncertainties can also be found in our 10-K previously filed with the SEC. Such factors may be updated from time to time in our periodic filings with the SEC and we do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements except as required by law. During the call, we will use non-GAAP financial measures when talking about the company's performance and financial condition. You can find additional information on these non-GAAP measures and reconciliations of our non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures to the extent available without unreasonable effort in today's earnings press release and presentation which, again, are available on our Investor Relations website. This webcast is being recorded and will be available for replay on our Investor Relations website. And with that, I will turn the call over to Jon Rousseau, Chief Executive Officer.
Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining BrightSpring's third quarter 2024 earnings call. I would like to take a moment and express my gratitude and appreciation for our employees and teammates, who work very hard to deliver attentive, compassionate, and quality care to the individuals and patients we serve across home and community settings every day. We're pleased to have delivered another strong quarter of financial results. Third quarter total revenue was $2.9 billion, representing 29% growth year-over-year. And adjusted EBITDA was $151 million, representing 16% growth year-over-year. Based on this performance in the quarter, we are raising the midpoint of our total revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2024 from $570 million to $580 million, to $580 million to $585 million. Jim will discuss our financial outlook in more detail shortly. Consistent with prior quarters, we continue to operate and expand in large and growing markets of significant need where we can best serve patients with essential high-quality services.
Within our Pharmacy segment, we drove exceptional volume growth with our operational focus and rigor as well as leading sales and marketing strategies, connecting patients with the services and therapies they need. Total scripts dispensed year-to-date continue to trend favorably as the operators continue to execute. Our Specialty business outpaced forecasts with higher script volumes driven by 2023 and 2024 LDD launches and generic scripts. In Provider, we saw good growth in census and hours and we successfully integrated previously announced acquisitions. We continue to deliver quality care to patients while improving margins sequentially, driven by leveraging scale and best practices across the organization. M&A and de novo expansion remain a focus at BrightSpring. We continue to have a strong acquisition engine with a healthy pipeline that, if converted, would augment the organic growth profile of the company.
All in all, at BrightSpring, we are proud of the high-quality care we deliver to complex patients where they reside and in the community, which supports the financial results delivered. Looking closer at third quarter performance, Pharmacy Solutions revenue of $2.3 billion represented 35% growth compared with the third quarter of last year driven primarily by strong script volume. The Infusion and Specialty business had another very strong revenue quarter, growing 42% year-over-year, while home and community pharmacy revenue grew 19% year-over-year. Across the Pharmacy segment, we saw 10.9 million total scripts dispensed in the third quarter, representing growth of 15% compared with last year driven by 36% growth in Specialty scripts dispensed. Strong growth in Specialty and Infusion continues to be driven by strategic focus and operational discipline, leading quality in Net Promoter Scores, partner and customer satisfaction, LDD launches, sales force support, and integration with providers and generic drug utilization.
The LDD portfolio expanded to 123 therapies during the quarter, and we continue to expect 18 new LDDs to launch over the next 16 to 20 months. We are honored that Onco360 was selected as a limited drug distribution specialty pharmacy partner for each of those therapies and are committed to improving the lives of patients who are battling cancer, rare orphan diseases, and a number of other diseases. SPRYCEL, used for the treatment of adults with newly diagnosed Ph-positive CML in the chronic phase, also converted and launched its generic late in the third quarter. We look forward to helping patients navigate the generic opportunity now in the market. Within Infusion, the business continued to drive volume growth in acute and chronic therapies in the third quarter. Throughout 2024, we have continued to over-invest in our Infusion business. We started with operational leadership changes earlier in the year, and we have been investing in people, capabilities, and processes to drive operational efficiencies, best practices, and improve profitability in the future, expecting to see results from these investments in 2025.
In home and community pharmacy this quarter, mid-teens script growth was driven by new customer wins and strong execution of our service programs across a variety of home and community settings, including assisted living, skilled nursing, medical and rehab facilities, behavioral settings, and hospice as well as other locations where patients need at-home pharmacy support. Turning to Provider Services. Segment revenue grew 10% year-over-year, and segment adjusted EBITDA margin expanded by 50 basis points year-over-year, primarily driven by broad-based execution volume growth and leveraging infrastructure across all service lines. Community and rehab care revenue grew 8%, which is a testament to the quality and customer service the team continues to deliver to patients. In the rehab business, we saw billable hours growth in the mid-teens compared with last year. A new and future avenue of growth we are excited about is our rehab and motion program.
This program supports Part B Medicare outpatient rehab patients as we add de novos through partnerships with ALS to provide rehab care to seniors in additional home and community settings, complementary to the commercial and workers' comp neuro rehab that we are known for today and also complementary to our home health, primary care, and hospice services we provide to the Medicare population in ALS and in homes today. We anticipate rehab and motion to continue to evolve next year and grow to meaningful size over the next 5 years, another way we are laying the foundation for long-term growth and better and more integrated prescriber and patient solutions. Community living performance has remained consistent, driven by quality services delivered to clients by a conscientious and coordinated care team within a robust infrastructure. As the most recent evidence of this, we received another 3-year CARF accreditation in the State of Indiana, which is very difficult for providers to achieve and another third-party stamp of quality.
In the third quarter, home healthcare revenue grew 13% year-over-year, and average daily census grew 16% to over 46,000, supported by exceptional clinical quality scores, including 30-day readmission rates that are 60% lower than the national average in our emerging primary care services. Towards the end of the third quarter, we announced the closing of the Haven Hospice acquisition and we look forward to expanding our quality care to high-need patients in Florida. Our hospice business continues to display a solid growth profile with great patient satisfaction, currently holding an 84% overall rating of care according to the consumer assessment of healthcare provider and systems. Overall, in 2024, BrightSpring and our teams continue to execute consistently towards our mission of driving compassionate and comprehensive health solutions to complex populations. We believe we are well-positioned to deliver on our updated 2024 outlook.
Broad-based strength across Pharmacy and Provider continues to underpin BrightSpring's success. In 2025 and beyond, the company plans to drive operational best practices and volume growth in attractive markets while further providing patients reliable, coordinated, high-quality, and lower-cost care. Before I turn the call over to Jim to discuss our third-quarter financial results and 2024 guidance in more detail, I would like to highlight that we recently added a third independent director to our Board, Dr. Steve Miller, who brings to BrightSpring decades of impressive clinical leadership experience. I look forward to working with Steve to grow our company and deliver leading quality of care to patients. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jim to walk through the financials and updated guidance.
Thank you, Jon. Total revenue in the third quarter of 2024 was $2.9 billion, representing 29% growth from the prior year period. Pharmacy Solutions segment revenue was $2.3 billion, achieving growth of 35% year-over-year. Within the Pharmacy segment, Infusion and Specialty revenue was $1.7 billion, representing growth of 42% from last year. And home and community pharmacy revenue was $588 million, representing growth of 19% year-over-year. In the Provider Services segment, we reported revenue of $641 million, representing growth of 10% compared to the prior year period. Within the Provider Services segment, home healthcare reported $265 million in revenue for the third quarter, growth of 13% versus last year. And community and rehab care revenue was $376 million, representing growth of 8% year-over-year. Moving down the P&L. Total company gross profit in the third quarter was $408 million, representing growth of 14% compared with the third quarter of last year.
Gross profit was negatively impacted by approximately $10 million related to nonrecurring items in the quarter, including start-up costs related to onboarding a large customer in home and community pharmacy, a small impact from the hurricane that was not material to adjusted EBITDA, and a settlement with a payer related to prior periods. Adjusted EBITDA for the total company was $151 million for the third quarter, growing 16% compared to last year. Adjusted EPS for the total company was $0.11 for the third quarter. Turning back to segment performance. Pharmacy Solutions gross profit was $189 million, growing 16% compared with the third quarter of last year. Adjusted EBITDA for Pharmacy Solutions was $99 million for the third quarter, growing 15% compared to last year, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 4.4%, which was in line with our expectations. Provider Services gross profit was $219 million, growing 13% versus the third quarter of last year.
Adjusted EBITDA for Provider Services was $93 million for the third quarter, growing 14% versus last year, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 14.5%, up 50 basis points versus last year. On a total company basis, cash flow from operations was $27 million in the third quarter of 2024, including $24 million as a final payment on the legacy legal matter previously disclosed. Excluding that legal payment, cash flow from operations was $51 million, which was in line with our expectations and included some strategic inventory purchases. We remain on track to deliver approximately $275 million of annual run rate operating cash flow, excluding disclosed legacy litigation expenses and IPO-related expenses as we continue to remain focused on improving our leverage ratio towards our goal of 3x within 2 to 3 years. As of September 30, our net debt outstanding is approximately $2.7 billion with our leverage ratio at 4.39x, which was in line with our internal projections.
As a reminder, net interest expense includes interest income related to cash flow hedges due to our 3 received variable pay fixed interest rate swap agreements that we have in place set to mature on September 30, 2025. Quarterly interest expense is still expected to be approximately $50 million per quarter, including approximately $1.4 million in interest expense related to the TEU instrument. Turning to our guidance for 2024. We are raising expectations for revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Total revenue is now expected to be in the range of $11.0 billion to $11.3 billion, including Pharmacy Solutions revenue of $8.5 billion to $8.75 billion and Provider Services revenue of $2.5 billion to $2.55 billion. We are also raising our total adjusted EBITDA outlook to the range of $580 million to $585 million for the full year 2024. This range represents 14.2% to 15.2% growth versus full year 2023 when excluding the QIP received in 2023.
Since the start of the year, we have increased the midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA guidance by nearly $42 million. At the midpoint of our adjusted EBITDA range, the adjusted EBITDA margin is approximately 5.2%, and we continue to expect to see margin expansion in Q4. With that, I will now turn it back to Jon.
Thank you for your time today to go through BrightSpring's third quarter results and guidance update. We will now open up the call for questions. Operator?
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Our first question comes from Brian Tanquilut from Jefferies.
Congrats on a solid quarter. Maybe, Jon, my first question, just to the point that Jim made about margins, expecting to improve in the fourth quarter. Just curious how we should be thinking about that between mix and other initiatives that would drive that margin expansion?
Q4 is always typically our highest margin quarter of the year for a variety of reasons, including days and other items. But we expect that trend to continue this year as it's been for almost every year. There are some other non-structural items that are going to occur or we expect to occur in Q4. We had a launch of a generic drug in Specialty, SPRYCEL. The new hospice rate goes into effect in the quarter. We should be through onboarding some new customers as well. Those items, along with continued volume growth and leveraging our fixed costs, will all ultimately contribute to the margin in the quarter. And we're holding our corporate expenses pretty much flat quarter-over-quarter at this point in time.
Awesome. And then maybe, Jon, just as a follow-up, there are a lot of questions from the investor community on biosimilars and pricing adjustments that seem to be happening in that space. So just curious what you're seeing or how should we be thinking about your exposure to some of these dynamics in the biosimilar world?
Yes, that's not applicable in our Specialty pharmacy oncology and rare and orphan business, which focuses more on oral and injectable treatments. Currently, STELARA is the only drug we're aware of in the infusion space experiencing biosimilar activity. Given our business mix in infusion, we don't anticipate a significant impact from that. There are several factors that could positively influence the situation as well. Specifically in infusion, we have been concentrating on a variety of operational initiatives this year related to service delivery and nursing, aiming to build a strong long-term platform with top-tier service levels. This remains our priority, and we believe there is potential for margin improvement in that sector next year from various operational and sales factors, independent of STELARA. As we consider 2025, the developments regarding STELARA will not significantly alter our plans or projections. In fact, it represents just 0.2% of our company revenue and less than 0.5% of our gross profit. We are committed to increasing volume and enhancing efficiency to move beyond these market fluctuations. These challenges are part of the landscape, and we have numerous other growth opportunities to pursue.
Our next question comes from the line of A.J. Rice from UBS.
I recall that last quarter, you mentioned being in negotiations with a significant long-term care operator. Based on your comments regarding start-up costs for onboarding a client, it seems that this has progressed. Can you provide any insight into what this might entail? Additionally, last quarter you discussed being in talks with a major managed care plan about your home health business. I'm curious if there are any updates on what you're experiencing with contracting in home health as well.
Yes. Thanks, A.J. So on the first point in home and community pharmacy, we grew scripts in that business year-over-year at double digits again. And we continue to focus on sales and marketing tactics in the space across multiple attractive channels. And that's all really underpinned by our service programs and our quality as well as we really try to differentiate in the market on those dimensions. But we did onboard one customer, in particular, as we've talked about that was very successful. It was across over 200 buildings. And it was a big effort, but I think it speaks to the execution of the team. We're probably the only company in the United States that would have been able to do that. It's going well. We still do have some lingering costs you incur over time and some other things as you're onboarding such a massive amount of customers and individuals. We expect that to continue to decrease as we get through Q4 and into Q1.
You can think about that as $1 million of monthly EBITDA that we've been able to drive that hopefully should continue to increase as we get into Q1 and ultimately finalize what we see as a long-term labor profile for that specific situation. On home-based primary care, we continue to talk to a handful of payers here in the early innings, the idea being that we can provide a very high level of primary care directly where payer members are in the home and community for the high risk and dramatically reduce hospitalization. These discussions can take a while but they are still continuing to progress and looking very well in one specific situation. I don't yet have the ability to specifically talk about that other than it's continuing to trend in the right direction.
Okay, it's great to hear that the Haven deal has been completed. Initially, it was mentioned that it could contribute about $15 million to EBITDA. Do you have any updates on how that might play out? Is it expected to contribute in 2025? Also, what are your thoughts on the potential for expanding that business and its revenue contributions?
Yes. It was good to see that close. And the first 30, 60 days have been excellent in terms of onboarding the team and really getting ingrained with everybody over there, just a ton of enthusiasm. And we think coming together, that will be about $1 million or $2 million of EBITDA realized this year. We believe that can be a $15 million opportunity over several years, sort of in a 5, 10, 15 stair-step, if you will, over the next couple of years.
Our next question comes from the line of David Larsen from BTIG.
Congratulations on a good quarter. Can you talk a little bit about the impact of the Inflation Reduction Act, if there's any? I mean we've seen IQVIA pull back yesterday. We've seen ICON on the CROs come under some pressure. There's kind of a view amongst some investors that it's sort of a headwind on the overall market. My view is maybe it's causing pharma to invest more heavily into specialty. Just what impact is brand inflation and the IRA having on your overall business?
Yes. So certainly, these are events that you would look out to in the future, primarily in 2026. The STELARA situation could be an example, where a manufacturer moved to do certain things in the market ahead of that timeline. Again, that's not a situation for us that's meaningful whatsoever. You've got to take it business by business. In Pharmacy, on Specialty, we really just have one drug on the list. That's out in 2026. But we are having very constructive conversations with that manufacturing partner already and see no risk in that specific situation in our Specialty oncology business. You look at Infusion, we talked about the one drug there and how for us in our situation, that's not material. And then you look at the LTC pharmacy, where you've got 6 or 7 drugs on the list for 2026, there was very good news in Q3 around this, which is what we thought. But CMS has always said in the IRA, I mean, it was written into it that the intention is to have no impact on the pharmacies.
So CMS really formalized that in Q3, basically stating that there's going to be a true-up mechanism to whack for the LTC pharmacies, which is pretty much exactly what we were seeking. So you've got to take this business by business, drug by drug. But as we look across Specialty, Infusion, and LTC pharmacy, we feel like we're in a really good place. The value of pharmacies in the last mile to the patient's home and what we do from a program and quality perspective is just beyond essential in the pharmacy world. You can't get the drug to the home without the pharmacies as willing participants. So the specific situations of the drug in each business are very low risk to us looking out a couple of years. And then CMS's formalization of the mechanism on the LTC side was great to see in the quarter.
Great. And then just any color around MA volumes? The plans have been under pressure because of high volumes. It seems to me like that could be a tailwind to you. Just any color there on how the pressure the plans have been under, how that's translating to your business.
Yes. For us, as it relates to MA, that's going to be on the Provider side. And really, the only relevance there is on home health a little bit. And so we've been constructive in working with home health over the past several years. Just given the imbalance of demand and supply in home health, demand really outstrips supply. Today, 40% of the individuals who need home health don't get it, which is really a problem. Because the benefits of home health are so profound, keeping people out of the hospital and reducing cost. And so really the only relevance there, David, is in our home health business. Call it 30% or so of what we do is MA. But we've had very constructive relationships, just given quality levels and the broad contracting that we do with payers across all of our service lines that continue to negotiate what we could see as very sustainable rates with them. So from an MA standpoint, that's really it for the company.
Our next question comes from the line of Joanna Gajuk from Bank of America.
So I guess I have two questions related to prior topics, if I may. So the first one on the IRA. So I understand you were commenting on the changes to the drug prices. But on the flip side, there are some other changes to Part D, essentially lowering the cost for patients. And some payers have said that they saw higher utilization of specialty drugs because of that. So have you seen that as well? And also in this context, the changes to patient costs are actually going to be even bigger in '25. So do you expect an even bigger increase in utilization next year under those changes?
Joanna, thank you. Yes. I mean, what you referred to there from a Part D perspective has been and we expect will continue to be positive for us to the extent that drugs are continuing to be made more affordable for patients, that is only a good thing. Oncology, in particular, is a very dynamic market. It is an extremely innovative and high-growth market right now. And with our quality, our relationships with manufacturers, and with our sales force, we are continuing to drive very robust volume growth in that business. Specialty and Infusion grew their revenue over 40% in the quarter as an example. As the calendar turns into January every year, some of those items that you mentioned go into effect. That was an accelerant this year for us. And given our planning ahead of the changeover year-over-year this year into January, we expect a bolus of new referrals as well. Our sales and marketing team is always months out in front of an event like that, making sure that we take full advantage of it to get these life-saving drugs to as many people as we can. So we would expect another bump as we get into January from a volume perspective due to the items that you laid out.
Great. And if I may follow up on the discussion around STELARA. So thank you for details in terms of your exposure, but your infusion peer said, and I guess you referred to, that there are some changes that the maker of STELARA plans to introduce ahead of other changes happening, so essentially reducing the spread materially on that drug. So how does this change, if that was to happen, because it sounds like maybe not final? But if that was to happen, how does this change your view of the impact of future similar launches? Could we see other drug makers kind of follow suit? And does this change how you think about biosimilars' benefit to your business going forward?
Yes. Look, it's really impossible to prognosticate around sort of the future of biosimilars in the space. I would just say that at least we view this situation as being very idiosyncratic. This drug is on the IRA list, and that's probably a play here in terms of any of the change in pricing from the manufacturer in this one specific instance. So that's our view, is that this is isolated. When you step back and you look at infusion broadly, it continues to be an extremely attractive market where there are real barriers to entry, given the local services and the high demand from prescribers and patients for fast turnaround times. It's a high-execution business where I think some of the larger players in the market have done a fantastic job. We like to participate in pharmacy markets that are challenging from a service model perspective and that are local. That really defines everything we do.
So we like infusion a lot for those reasons. The pipeline is extremely deep. There are many possible growth drivers in this market over the next 1, 3, 5, and 10 years. And look, drugs coming onto the market, drugs going generic, drugs going biosimilar, that is just constantly at play in any drug market. With a long-term focus on quality service levels and volume and then real efficiency from a margin perspective, you just have to continue to focus on those critical success factors and take advantage of all the opportunities you can over time. For us, that's been continuing to try to drive volume as much as we can. On Infusion, as we've talked about, that's a business that is less mature at our company historically. We've made a lot of investments in that business this year. That's in our P&L. We expect those to be a benefit as we look into next year. So again, STELARA, we view it as a very specific situation for a variety of reasons and, as I said before, not one that would materially change our outlook from what we were otherwise planning next year. There are still several items to play out within the STELARA-specific situation that can be very positive as well. So still more to be seen there.
Our next question comes from the line of Ann Hynes from Mizuho.
I know you're not giving 2025 guidance, but heading into next year, can you maybe highlight some key headwinds and tailwinds you might be facing?
Yes, Ann. Yes, we'll be getting to 2025 guidance in time. Obviously, we're well down the path of budgets. So we need to formalize all that work and formalize numbers to be communicated. But at this time, as I've said in the past, we're feeling the same way, if not a little bit more positive than we were on the last call in terms of our ability to continue to drive our historical level of growth into next year. Over the last 8 years now, our CAGR has been in the double digits from a revenue and EBITDA growth perspective. We see no reason why that would change next year, and that's our base plan and how we're thinking about the business right now. In terms of drivers of the business, again, just given our business mix, we are a multi-pronged growth company. It's something we really like. You look at Specialty, first and foremost, there's just a ton of momentum, particularly in the oncology and the rare and orphan space.
We have a dominant position as an independent pharmacy in that market, and our quality and trade relationships and our sales force investment and focus continue to drive the business forward. We certainly expect that to continue. SPRYCEL launched in Q3. It went generic. It's a tailwind. Another drug is going to go generic in hopefully Q1, maybe Q2, hopefully Q1. We continue to have just really good momentum overall from our LDD launches. We'll launch 15 this year. Of note, of those 15 LDD launches in Specialty, I think 4 or 5 are exclusive, and the rest are only in ultra-narrow networks of 2 pharmacies or less. Manufacturers are really selecting only 1 or 2 pharmacies to fulfill and support these drugs. We'll continue with our LDD momentum and our generics momentum in our existing portfolio next year as well. Then our fee-for-service business and specialty with highly valued services and data we provide for manufacturers, that continues to grow too.
So just multiple growth drivers within Specialty alone. I mentioned Infusion. We expect the investments operationally in that business to start to pay off next year. We would expect continued volume growth in that business of double digits. But importantly, we're expecting to see the margin in that business now start to tick up, just given some of the operational projects we've been focusing on. For us, that's an opportunity to grow our market share in a really attractive, big market. That's our focus with service levels that hopefully are at the top of the industry. And that's what we've been working on there. I should note also on Infusion, Quorum announced in the quarter that they were getting out of acute. A lot of the infusion players, when you look out there, have just started to focus on specialty, particularly the smaller infusion companies. Our thesis is that you have to do both.
You have to do acute and you have to do chronic infusion therapies. That, to us, is the most relevant to the payer. Payers would expect you to be able to infuse all therapy types for their members and not just 1 or 2. We are focusing on being a broad-based infusion company that continues to do acute. Acute infusion is a huge market, and it has a respectable margin. We believe there are many reasons to continue to do acute. As Quorum has most recently pulled away from that market, that should also be a tailwind as we get into next year. As we've said before, we like home health and hospice a lot. Hospice continues to get great support. We expect both businesses to continue to grow volume at double digits. We continue to invest in operational technology and efficiency centralization opportunities in those businesses as well. We like rehab clinically as well. We expect that business to grow at double digits as we continue to do de novos in more markets and penetrate current markets.
We will continue to try to evolve and scale our home-based primary care business for upside, too. I did mention LTC, our third pharmacy business, but that business is going to be up year-over-year on EBITDA for us this year for a variety of reasons. I think both from a volume and customer and margin perspective next year, given some of the operational initiatives we've been driving hard this year, we expect to see LTC pharmacy do well next year, too.
Our next question comes from the line of Whit Mayo from Leerink.
Just curious about the sequential growth implied within the guidance for the fourth quarter, certainly points to the stronger seasonality that we see within the business. But how are you sort of thinking about the directional trends within each of the individual segments?
Yes. So Q4 would imply essentially a 15% to 16% growth rate year-over-year and a step-up of $10 million to $15 million sequentially, but we feel good about that number. I think it's a reflection of our continued operational execution and focus on growth at the company. We spoke to a number of the drivers earlier and why we raised our guidance. We raised our guidance again as we look at Q4. It will be more of the same across the business. Pharmacy is expected to grow at very healthy rates, and Provider is expected to grow at a double-digit EBITDA growth rate in Q4 as well. So very, very similar relative contribution, I would say, in the Q4 growth as we saw in the Q3 growth. But Jim or Jen, I don't know if you have anything else.
Yes, Jon, I would just add a couple of pieces. Q4, as we've talked about, the second half of the year is stronger from a seasonality perspective than the first half. Q4, historically, is a little bit stronger than Q3. We have our best seasonality period of the year. A number of different initiatives Jon mentioned earlier in relation to the margin question that came up also very much drive the dollar profit. The SPRYCEL generic launch that went live at the end of Q3 will be in full swing in Q4. On our launch on the home and community pharmacy customer, those start-up costs will start to dissipate as we go into and through Q4, which will be net favorable quarter-over-quarter. On the Provider side, we continue to have solid rate support. Hospice rates went live on 10/1. That's net favorable quarter-over-quarter sequentially. The Haven Hospice acquisition, while not overly meaningful from a total company EBITDA perspective on the full year, is certainly net positive sequentially from Q3 to Q4.
We have overall volume continuing to grow year-over-year and sequentially that drives through Q4 and through the end of the year. All of those pieces really add up to a high degree of confidence, all wrapped around a divisional G&A and a corporate overhead that we continue to scale. Our corporate overhead from Q2 to Q3 was flat. Our corporate overhead from Q3 to Q4 should be in the same area or slightly favorable as we continue to grow revenue and drive gross profit and business-level profitability. So all those pieces add up to a strong Q4 for us to close out the year.
Yes. As we continue to scale, holding those divisional and corporate costs flat.
That's really helpful. I might have overlooked this, but could you share where you see the capital deployment priorities heading over the next year? You've been active in hospice and somewhat in home health. Are there any areas or businesses you anticipate might become less central going forward? I'm just considering the portfolio and how you plan to allocate or withdraw capital as you look ahead to the next year.
Yes. I think from an acquisition strategy perspective, Whit, it's just going to be extremely consistent with what we've done over the past couple of years. On the Pharmacy side, if there are opportunities for very accretive transactions sub-4x in long-term care pharmacy or infusion, those will be things we look at. On the Provider side, it's been rehab, home health, hospice, and then home-based primary care as well. So that will continue to be the focus. If I had to say a mix, it's probably 50-50 as a rule of thumb. In our pipeline right now, we have 3 or 4 very small little CON tuck-ins in home health and hospice. Those are the kind of things that are a couple of million dollars or less of capital but just really high ROI investments that we can make. Certainly, we might do several acquisitions that are a little bit bigger than that in the $3 million, $4 million, $5 million EBITDA range.
That's sort of our base case right now. On the de novo side, it's really on Provider at this point between home health, hospice, and rehab. Entrants into adjacent markets and new markets, call it, 10 to 20 of those a year. Those are several hundred thousand dollars investments for each and very easy to do from a capital standpoint that typically and historically have had really good ROI attached to them. So no big plans at this point in time for anything outside of what we've been doing over the last 2 years. But we're always opportunistic. We always have opportunities. We're very focused on getting to a specific leverage target. That's at the forefront of everything we're doing. Our behavior over the last year or 2 has been to focus on smaller, very accretive transactions. There could be a couple that are a little bit bigger but sub-$10 million of EBITDA. We'll always remain agile for situations that are just really unique to us that we could drive value for shareholders. But that's our base plan.
Our next question comes from the line of Linda Bolduc from Morgan Stanley.
This is Linda Bolduc on for Erin Wright. So going quickly back to the IRA, I believe I heard a mention of the company having one drug on the IRA drug list. Is this STELARA? Or is it another drug? And if so, what is that drug's exposure?
Yes. IMBRUVICA in specialty oncology would be the one drug in specialty oncology. We have a great relationship there with the manufacturer. We've been talking to them for months already, well over a year ahead of any IRA. We feel very good about that situation in terms of how it's all going to play out. I don't see any risk there. On the infusion side, it's really STELARA. We talked about that. We think that's pretty isolated within the infusion world. On LTC, there are 5 or 6 drugs. I mentioned in the quarter, CMS really clarified and memorialized their language around the true-up mechanism that would be in place for the LTC pharmacies, which was great to see. That really took any meaningful impact for the industry down significantly and the risk down significantly. There are still items that we'll be working with CMS and on Capitol Hill throughout all of next year in terms of things that we believe the LTC industry should do and have that would make sense for everybody that we would view as positive for LTC.
We'll still be working on our long list of items with folks in D.C. as it relates to LTC. But that will play out over the next year, but it was really good to see at least sort of the baseline feedback from CMS in the quarter. That really summarizes everything across our service lines as it relates to IRA and really no change from our perspective in terms of how we think about long-term growth over 3, 5 years, and beyond in the company.
That's helpful. And also within the Pharmacy segment, we've seen continued quarter-over-quarter impressive growth compared to last year, especially when we compare that to a long-term growth target of high single digits. So just to parse out this growth a bit further, how much of that impressive growth is related to BrightSpring capturing meaningful share from industry peers and the market expanding with these new specialty drugs?
Yes. I believe it's primarily the latter. Oncology is one of the two largest markets in specialty pharmacy, growing at a rate in the double digits. The innovation pipeline is substantial, with around $90 billion in new revenue expected in the next 7 to 8 years. There is a significant pipeline of generics; following the generic release of SPRYCEL in Q3, an additional 10 large brands are projected to go generic in the next 6 to 7 years. As these transitions occur and new brands enter the market, our team has been effective in collaborating with manufacturers to serve as launch partners for these new products. We prioritize providing the best service to our manufacturing partners and patients daily. Over the past 15 years, we have worked hard to position ourselves favorably in terms of quality, service, and sales to engage closely with innovators in this market as they launch new products. Our goal is to offer the best and fastest service possible to patients. Generics benefit everyone. We have also strategically focused on how we support generics, which requires significant expertise and aligns well with our business model.
Our next question comes from Jamie Perse from Goldman Sachs.
Jon, I was hoping you could spend a minute just on your early primary care efforts, what you're looking for there to gauge the level of management focus and capital you'll deploy here. And how should we be measuring your success in that space in 2025 and 2026?
Yes. Thanks, Jamie. So that's a business that we continue to really grow and focus on mostly organically. It's been an organic build where we've never really lost any money, which has been a prerogative for us. But the business has continued to drive very good patient growth this year. Again, these are doctors and 80% of the time, nurse practitioners going into assisted living, going into skilled nursing facilities, and sometimes the home to be the primary physician and clinician to really drive 60% reductions in hospitalization rates. With that value proposition and that benefit, we've continued to grow our volumes at 40%, 50% from a patient perspective this year. The key for us was getting some ACO contracts in place and with our I-SNP acquisition back late in Q2, having our own internal managed care plans. Those efforts are just continuing on. There's a lot of focus around it. We're not talking about it really very much until there's really real EBITDA there to talk about.
We'll do $7 million of EBITDA in that space this year. We're hoping to get to 8 figures of EBITDA quickly, maybe next year, certainly, certainly into 2026, as we have about a 5-year to 7-year target to manage over 100,000 patients in that business. So I would say patient count is a really sort of the best near-term proxy over the next year or two. Then obviously, you would look at profitability in the business and the level of profitability, I think, as we get into 2026 in particular, that potentially being pretty meaningful as a growth driver in the company. Things are going well there, and we continue to focus on our patient population as it relates to lives where we have ACO shared savings, lives under an I-SNP model, and lives in the future where we're hopefully contracted with a payer managing their members.
Our next question comes from the line of Pito Chickering from Deutsche Bank.
Relative to Street models, it looks like the Provider side of business was a big part of the third quarter EBITDA beat. So how much of that margin improvement seen this quarter, which was spectacular, came from pricing versus community and rehab patients declining year-over-year, so positive mix coming from home health or just overall SG&A leverage on the 10% revenue growth?
Yes. Thanks, Pito. There's a little bit of both. So certainly, we had good volume growth in the quarter. With that, we were able to leverage fixed costs, which was helpful from a market perspective. Then you look at 4 factors. Number two, when you look at mix, with home health continuing to grow at attractive rates compared to hospice with their margins relative to the community living business and rehab as well. So rehab, home health, and hospice, those are higher margin than the community living business. As those businesses continue to grow volume at higher rates, that is at play as well. Really third, we continue to drive some efficiency projects across the organization, which really get reflected in the P&Ls of the individual segments and businesses. For example, with our corporate BPO team, the business process optimization team, and with our corporate procurement team, we're on track to deliver over $20 million.
This is really outside of Pharmacy initiatives. We're on track to deliver over $20 million of cost reduction this year. Just from a procurement, purchasing, and efficiency perspective, the benefit of that really flows through the businesses and the segments and the P&Ls. I would say really fourth, just given the value, the quality of the services and the ROI of all of these services, which dramatically reduce costs compared to any other setting, we continue to have good support and advocacy from rates, particularly on the hospice and community living side. The vast majority of that ultimately goes and funds our clinicians and our frontline caregivers, so we can continue to have a very stable workforce, but that is helpful as well.
A final question from Matthew Gillmor from KeyBanc.
The $10 million of nonrecurring items you called out, I was curious if you could delineate between the start-up losses and the payer settlement? And then related to that, was that something that was contemplated in guidance? Or should we view that as sort of incremental to what you reported on EBITDA?
Yes. So I'll turn that over to Jen and Jim. I mean, as it relates to any of the start-up costs associated with onboarding new customers, that would have been in the guidance before and all along. The item as it relates to an old payer situation, that dated back to literally 6 years ago. Very, very isolated, but any other comments on that, too...
Yes. So that payer settlement was also included from a guidance perspective as well. We did finalize, as we noted, all of the old other legal cases. So that was an increase this year and from a nonrecurring expenses standpoint as well, as we had a lot of acquisition and integration costs in the quarter as we were working through some of those projects.
Thank you. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference back to Jon Rousseau for closing remarks.
Thank you, everybody, for your time today. We appreciate it. At the company, we continue to focus every day on trying to bring very valuable high-quality services to people across homes and communities all around us every day, who really can benefit from these services. I think we continue to do a good job focusing on operational execution in each one of these service lines. Quality, volume growth, and efficiency will remain our areas of focus. We're optimistic about closing out 2024 and getting into 2025 in a good position. Again, trying to make the biggest impact we can for people in our communities. Thank you for your time today and have a good one. Bye.
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